Employment Pass Rejected
Re-applying with the same data (employer, job, salary, education) will give you the same result - rejection.
(The salary thresholds for EP have gone up since last year, so with the same or similar salary, you don't qualify any more. In addition, they are now stricter in checking educational criteria - i.e. many Indian schools don't qualify any more.)
1. Current Job scope totally different from your qualification
2. Company Not Good (Not Hiring Local hence not contributing to Singapore)
3. Your JOB can be easily replaced by Singaporean.
Singapore is trying to control the number of permit giving recently. They have been very strict.
Is there any other way to do it now? I guess they really dont want foreigners anymore...never felt so unwanted lol..
please advise if anyone has an idea...thanks
- You are replacing a Singaporean - so a local was able to do the job before, and probably could do so again.
- Your company has no other employees in Singapore and you haven't submitted a business plan that shows you will employ locals in the future.
- You don't have a university degree, only a diploma (which means a technician certificate in English - if you actually have a university degree which is called "diplom" or similar in your language, you should have pointed out that it is not a diploma, but a B.Sc. or M.Sc.).
- Your salary is below S$8000/month and thus you cannot get an EP without university degree. (In addition, your salary might altogether be below what MoM finds appropriate for your level.)
Care to explain in more detail?
If you currently earn above S$8000/month (which director level in Brussels certainly do, if you convert the 聙 income), you can apply for a PEP (Personal Employment Pass). This is valid for 5 years, allows you to work for any employer in Singapore that pays you above S$34000/year.
I would need some information on possible reasons for my Visa Rejection.
I hold a Singapore Dependent Pass, but I currently reside in India. I applied for an EP through my company on 30th May but my application got rejected. The only reason mentioned by MOM was - "This candidate does not qualify for a Work Pass", any possible reasons for this kind of response?
A brief on my profile which was submitted:
1. Salary - 4285
2. Profile - Software Test Analyst
3. Qualification - MBA from a reputed Indian university
4. Total Experience - 7 years
5. Company - A leading Indian software Company.
Please throw some light on possible workarounds as My spouse is working in Singapore and really need to be there.
Thanks in Anticipation
thank you for the insights.. yes I am replacing a local singaporean and thus you can assume that another singaporean can do this job, I am a Diploma holder in engineering with around 5 years in the same company..
my salary comes to around 8500SGD on conversion and the company was arranging accommodation for me in singapore a 1 bedroom condo...
thus my conditions were good...how should we proceed now? or should we stop pursuing it till we hire a local person to man the office in singapore? your suggestions are much appreciated..
thanks for your time
vic darichiyan: If your basic salary (without bonuses and allowances) is currently above S$8000, apply for a PEP on your own merit (i.e. without formal involvement of the company). Once you have that, you can work for any Singapore employer (also your current employer's Singapore office) even at lower salary.
Do you have any idea on Training Employment Pass (TEP). I have been working in Singapore with EP for two years. My company is going to apply for TEP for me this year instead of EP. It does not make sense to me.
Do you have any idea.
Thanks
Otherwise, I don't think it makes sense as well, as the company would have to justify what sort of training you are undertaking.
No my position is same. My company is Nanyang Technological University. They said since nowadays, getting EP is more difficult, it is better to apply for TEP instead of EP. I've heard MOM is giving this pass only for 6months. Do you know anything more or anyone who has this pass please?
Thanks,
link to the MOM's TEP info page. We had an intern in my company on this pass a couple of years ago, was for roughly 3-4 months.
Please advise if there is a workaround.
But there is no workaround for stupid corporate rules, other than changing to another company. Sorry!
vic darichiyan: Getting EP nowadays become harder. To be honest pay doesn't really take much concern for MOM to decide, as I got my friend been EP for 4 years with pay more than 10k and a Director. However the renewal was rejected, appealed 3 times and rejected too. On another hand I got friend having EP under SGD2500 and the recent renewal got no issue. Strange to me too...聽 as the salary is not qualify actually. Does the company that hiring you has many local there?
You relative cannot apply for a visa that allows work for you, only an employer can. Even a dependents pass is only possible for direct line relatives (kids and parents), so if this relative isn't one of these either, he cannot help at all.
The reason was almost certainly not a quota problem, but your lack of experience: Fresh graduates do not normally get a visa.
And your relative cannot apply for an S-Pass for you unless they have their own, Singapore-registered company and are going to employ you and pay the salary mentioned in the S-Pass application. (It is NOT a good idea to cheat here!)
Previous rejection letters are not needed for a new application, because the deciding authority already has all that information in the database!
The letter anyway never gives the reason for rejection (it's in the database, of course, but you will never know it).
And do you want to apply (as in your first post) or appeal against a rejection (as you write later on)? In both cases, only the employer can do it, not you yourself or any relative.
we are hiring a singaporean secretary soon and hope this will be useful for my application..we are out of options even though my employer knows that I am best suited to run the business here...joke was that when we made an online advertisement for the post there were hardly any Singaporean nationals that applied for the job...lets see how it goes..
when can we reapply again for the pass? Its been just over a month that my pass was rejected..
How to make an appointment to meet the officer?
Because they also don't have special counter to meet the officer and online appointment is not handle about permit?
beppi wrote:At MoM, appeals are handled by the same officer who rejected the original application. Thus an appeal is only worth your time if you have additional material or information (and a good reason why it wasn't included initially - otherwise it might be counted against you).
In many cases, officers are willing to reveal the reasons for rejection in a personal talk, so go there (preferably with an HR representative) and meet the officer before you appeal!
Punchkin: I have never heard of a rule saying that MoM has to give a reason for rejecting an appeal. Is it new, or wrong information?
ekadarma2512 wrote:How to make an appointment to meet the officer?
Let your prospective employer call and ask.
Or just go there with an HR person and be persistent.
Thanks.
I have case here. My s pass rejected and appeal also rejected. is there any other way to get my s pass?
I hold bachelor degree and my university recognize at MOM. I also have relevant 4 to 5 years in the same field that I apply. The HR said company still have quota. The company also offer SGD2500++ so it supposed to be no problem. I don't understand the reason of rejection.
So if appeal also rejected is it any chance to apply the appeal again? heard that for the 3rd time we should to do an aptitude test?聽 聽
beppi wrote:ekadarma2512 wrote:How to make an appointment to meet the officer?
Let your prospective employer call and ask.
Or just go there with an HR person and be persistent.
They either don't like you, or your company. In a personal meeting with the officer, they sometimes tell the reason for rejection. Then you can decide whether you can change something about it. E.g. if the reason is the company, you can look for another job and re-apply.
beppi wrote:MoM's decision is final. There is no point appealing without any change in circumstances - just saying "please look at it again" does not work!
They either don't like you, or your company. In a personal meeting with the officer, they sometimes tell the reason for rejection. Then you can decide whether you can change something about it. E.g. if the reason is the company, you can look for another job and re-apply.
1. The relevant experience that u have (4-5 years), was it in sg? How long have u been in sg? And the university that u took, was it in sg or other country?
2. was the employer apply for you spass only or (spass or epass application)?
3. How long did you wait the outcome聽 of 1st application and appeal application?
4. What is your next stepnnow? Will you ask employer to re-appeal again? Or your employer initiatively would like to do re-appeal for you?
5. As i read info above, MOM will give the reason of rejection for appeal. Did u ask for that to ur employer?
6. May i know the field of your work scope? This is to know if you are taking the sgporean favourite jobscope/ mom think sgporean can do it w/o foreigner.
For your info, i also have the same exp here. My employer applied e/spassmfor me and it was rejected only 1 day after the pass was applied ( pretty fast huh)聽 I have been staying in sg for 5 yrs with 1 year + of relevant experience in sg (with ep holder previously). The salary is above current standard spass category. I also have no idea why it was rejected. But hopefully will get goodnews soon.. Crossed finger XD
I'm a Indian national currently on EP ( Q1) with a base salary of 2500 with a master's degree from MOM recognised Uni in the UK and 6 years of work exp currently working in sales with a subsidiary of a Multinational bank with earnings over 40,000 SGD for the last year. Quite recently my EP was not renewed, reason stated being that I don't meet the criteria ( I'm guessing a low base salary)It has been 10 working days since my rejection my company is in the process of appealing the decision with strong reasons stating my performance/earnings etc. Self evaluation calculator on the MOM website only approves my EP for 3500 - 4000. I have two questions
1) What are the chances for the the approval of the appeal ? ( My company says that they wil apply for a Spass if this is not succesful)
2) My visa expires on the 23rd september considering the appeal process takes place 4 weeks or more will I get an automatic extension if it exceeds my visa time?
Your responses would be much appreciated.Thanks in advance
Just would like to share my opinion :
1. The chances of approval of EP is based on MOM decision in the view of how your company appealed it (they look out the reason, or any chances of increment for salary to adjust to meet new criteria of EP Holder).
2. Your visa will not be automatically extend unless your current renew application is approved before the expiry date of your EP.
Btw, may I ask you something, as you stated below that the company has appealed the application for 10 days, can you be able to check the status of appeal through EP Online (in MOM Website) currently?
Since based on the information provided in MOM Website, we may enquire the status of appeal 7 working days after the appeal is submitted via iSubmit. (I suggest that we can see the status in EP Online will appear as "APPEALED" instead of "REJECTED", but I am not sure if it will appear as such.). Appreciate your info.
Thank you for your information.
Cheers,
Elnata
sachinarn007 wrote:Hello guys,
I'm a Indian national currently on EP ( Q1) with a base salary of 2500 with a master's degree from MOM recognised Uni in the UK and 6 years of work exp currently working in sales with a subsidiary of a Multinational bank with earnings over 40,000 SGD for the last year. Quite recently my EP was not renewed, reason stated being that I don't meet the criteria ( I'm guessing a low base salary)It has been 10 working days since my rejection my company is in the process of appealing the decision with strong reasons stating my performance/earnings etc. Self evaluation calculator on the MOM website only approves my EP for 3500 - 4000. I have two questions
1) What are the chances for the the approval of the appeal ? ( My company says that they wil apply for a Spass if this is not succesful)
2) My visa expires on the 23rd september considering the appeal process takes place 4 weeks or more will I get an automatic extension if it exceeds my visa time?
Your responses would be much appreciated.Thanks in advance
The minimum salary for an EP is S$3000/month for a fresh graduate. People with higher degrees and/or work experience need to earn more to qualify. Apparently, it's S$3500/month in your case.
If your company, on the EP application form, ticked the box "consider for S-Pass if EP is rejected", an S-Pass would be granted automatically if you qualify. If that box was not ticked, no appeal or new application for S-Pass is possible. Employers often don't want to tick that box, because S-Pass holders cost extra levies and take up quota spaces. In addition, S$2500 is so low for a M.Sc. with experience that you might not even qualify for an S-Pass.
Most likely, you have two choices: Either convince your employer to pay S$3500 base salary (or find another one that does), or book a (one-way) flight home for September.
It's hard, I know, but life is not fair. Sorry!
(Regarding your question abour EP application process taking longer than old EP validity: You will be given an SVP to continue staying - but not working! - in Singapore, usually for 2 weeks, but exceptions are possible.)
when do you think I can reapply for an EP...its been round 3 months since rejection...thanks for your time...
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