Thai- Farang relationship--- some advice please
I am a Thai woman who was originally born in BKK. After reading all the comments, I agree with all the comments. There are always good and bad people everywhere. If you look for a gf/wife from bars, it will be hard for you to count on her later. I have many foreign male friends who were hooked with bar girls, educated/upcountry girls, etc. Some are bad and some are good. Even though I gave them some advice, they were fooled by those girls. For example, one of my male friends had a Thai gf. She was early 20s, but she went to my friend's office (he works in BKK) to see him/pick him up from time to time. She did that for almost 2 years, and she firstly told my friend that she came from Chonburi but moved to live in BKK since she was very young with her sister. She even lied to my friend that she studied at RU and had to go back to Chonburi to see her parents every weekend. I told my friend that I couldn't believe this based on what many stories he told me and her look. Later, my friend followed her to Chonburi after my last advice and hecaught her living with a German business man there. He was completely fooled for nearly 2 years by that girl.
What I am telling you about this story is you sometimes can't judge or look at people based on their status, races,religion, education,etc. Each person is unique and completely different. If I were you, I would not look at bar girls. Kinda risky and might break up after marriage later.
To find good ones, there are lots if you walk somewhere such as coffee shops, book shops, etc. You sometimes need to be able to differentiate with people and the areas.
Hope this helps & good luck finding Ms. Right!
Lancashire Lad wrote:That is a very good reply Hollywood. Where you said: "I have many foreign male friends who were hooked with bar girls, educated/upcountry girls, etc."Â I think you meant to type "uneducated?
Thank you for that. I meant "uneducated".
hollywoodbkk13 wrote:Hello tarzan7,
I am a Thai woman who was originally born in BKK. After reading all the comments, I agree with all the comments. There are always good and bad people everywhere. If you look for a gf/wife from bars, it will be hard for you to count on her later. I have many foreign male friends who were hooked with bar girls, educated/upcountry girls, etc. Some are bad and some are good. Even though I gave them some advice, they were fooled by those girls. For example, one of my male friends had a Thai gf. She was early 20s, but she went to my friend's office (he works in BKK) to see him/pick him up from time to time. She did that for almost 2 years, and she firstly told my friend that she came from Chonburi but moved to live in BKK since she was very young with her sister. She even lied to my friend that she studied at RU and had to go back to Chonburi to see her parents every weekend. I told my friend that I couldn't believe this based on what many stories he told me and her look. Later, my friend followed her to Chonburi after my last advice and hecaught her living with a German business man there. He was completely fooled for nearly 2 years by that girl.
What I am telling you about this story is you sometimes can't judge or look at people based on their status, races,religion, education,etc. Each person is unique and completely different. If I were you, I would not look at bar girls. Kinda risky and might break up after marriage later.
To find good ones, there are lots if you walk somewhere such as coffee shops, book shops, etc. You sometimes need to be able to differentiate with people and the areas.
Hope this helps & good luck finding Ms. Right!
over 75% of Thai women I know are married or in relationships or being sponsored and STILL has a geek on the side
believe it or not
tarzan7 wrote:Where do I find another my friend.
in another bar of courseÂ
This time however just screw her without building up any "relationship".
"Relationships" in Thailand are just a waste of time and money.
blackjack2010 wrote:yes if you shop in the wrong cheap charlie places you will get the wrong product
Pattaya is sin city
but with 1 million people in the Chonburi district you get the good and the bad
lets say there are 50000 girls working the bars etc
what do the rest do?
offer happy endings in massage shops and freelance in discos , shopping malls and along Beach Road 
I read your post and I have sympathy for your situation.
From my work experiences with NGO and I have a lot of NGO friends who work with bar girls and prostitues I can say that NOT ALL of them are bad. No discrimination to all of them. But for your case, you are an unlucky man.
From my opinion, you can find a Thai girl for long term relationship in many occasions such as Couchsurfing group. They organize many activities and it is better chance for you to join and meet new girl.
Good luck for your love life and I don't want you to have negative attitude to all of Thai girl. Keep going.
Pern
blackjack2010 wrote:hollywoodbkk13 wrote:Hello tarzan7,
I am a Thai woman who was originally born in BKK. After reading all the comments, I agree with all the comments. There are always good and bad people everywhere. If you look for a gf/wife from bars, it will be hard for you to count on her later. I have many foreign male friends who were hooked with bar girls, educated/upcountry girls, etc. Some are bad and some are good. Even though I gave them some advice, they were fooled by those girls. For example, one of my male friends had a Thai gf. She was early 20s, but she went to my friend's office (he works in BKK) to see him/pick him up from time to time. She did that for almost 2 years, and she firstly told my friend that she came from Chonburi but moved to live in BKK since she was very young with her sister. She even lied to my friend that she studied at RU and had to go back to Chonburi to see her parents every weekend. I told my friend that I couldn't believe this based on what many stories he told me and her look. Later, my friend followed her to Chonburi after my last advice and hecaught her living with a German business man there. He was completely fooled for nearly 2 years by that girl.
What I am telling you about this story is you sometimes can't judge or look at people based on their status, races,religion, education,etc. Each person is unique and completely different. If I were you, I would not look at bar girls. Kinda risky and might break up after marriage later.
To find good ones, there are lots if you walk somewhere such as coffee shops, book shops, etc. You sometimes need to be able to differentiate with people and the areas.
Hope this helps & good luck finding Ms. Right!
over 75% of Thai women I know are married or in relationships or being sponsored and STILL has a geek on the side
believe it or not
I agree with you. Sadly these kind of women do not know the word "enough". I wondered this before why they cheated on their partners/husbands/bfs. Some women have Thai partners but have foreign men as their back ups. Some have foreign partners, but they also have other foreign partners and so on. I do not understand why they did this. It is really bad image for Thai women as a whole.
tarzan7 wrote:Maybe my girlfriend wants to be bigamist then because she wants to marry me asap already booking the room etc lol  I put a stop to it and said a firm NO  i can't believe that every Thai woman is garbage. But who knows. All i know is that i will not over commit
I think you judge people based on what you meet. This is terrible. Even though you go find a woman in another country, you would end up the same way as long as you still want to find girls from the bars! It is just your social circle that takes you to see this kind of woman. Each woman is different even men as well. I think you should evaluate yourself firstly and think about what kind of woman you really want.
Based on my work/travel experiences in many countries, I found that western men seeing bar girls in their countries are different from seeing bar girls in Asia, Russia, Latin America & Africa. You could find a decent and good woman in your country if you could find one; however, it would be hard to find a good one in the countries mentioned above because they do that as their jobs. This means you mostly cannot rely on them. There are some good prostitutes who want to raise their status and help their families, so they do that kind of job then they hope that somebody would help them out by taking them out from bars to men's countries.
As I said earlier, you need to evaluate yourself what kind of woman you want including your social circle and even your friends.
its just that the girls see someone spending loads on money on their holiday and this money is enough for the girls to eat and drink and have some fun for months - so they want a slice of it
for them its like winning the lottery
scoring a foreigner so they can stay in nice hotels, eat good food, get a bit of pocket money,
but sadly many go to far
particularly if they drink and gamble
Then yes, A Bar girl is a good match for that person.
A "Normal" Thai women are not coming there, and not want her Boy friend / husband to stay at a Bar 24/7.
I do think it is the same all over the world, i know it is the same in Denmark.
So if a person like the live at a Bar, learn the game, play and have fun, and never invest feeling into the game, when start feeling more for the bar girl, move on tho the next one, or change the bar girl frequently any way.
If one want more then that, i think try to understand Thai culture is a good thing, and learn a little about how thing is outside the bar area, Tourist Area.
There is so many good, nice Thai women in this country, but one is not going to find them in the Bar that for sure.
I never see the Bar girls as evil, there doing the job, some are better at that job then others, and can "catch" more foreigner then others. It is because they understand the game, and can play it really good.
allenbenner wrote:Freelancers are great if you like to gamble, ...with your health, ... STD or HIVÂ Â or with your well being, ...getting drugged and robbed!
can happen in any country
If you meet a girl in a bar, go-go bar, sex massage place, Lucifer, Mixx, Levels, Soi 7 beer garden, or any other place like this, DO NOT get into a relationship with her, period. Girls who work in bars and sell their bodies for sex are not "Bar Girls" they are prostitutes. Use common sense, you probably would not go do to the local red light district in your home town and start up a relationship with a hooker there. The same logical applies here.
We have handled thousands of cases over the last 14 years and I can tell you from cases file statistics that 90% or more of men who get involved with Bar Girls lose. Plain and simple. You will lose in the end.
Have fun with them, go to the movies, a walk in the park, whatever. But under no circumstances should you ever start a relationship with a Bar Girl, unless you want to lose everything. That is the best free advice I can give anyone.
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I also run a successful business that deals in foreigners getting into trouble and most of the time the bring it on themselves.
UFC rule is protect yourself at all times.
Most dont.
And the shoe must go on the other foot sometimes - a nice man goes to a bar to finds a nice girl or a quicky - so why is the nice man in a quicky bar. The quicker man takes the nice bar girl home and wants a relationship but the quicky man soon gets bored of her and wants to go back to the quicky bar.
Som nom nar - reap what you sow or what goes around comes around - 17.6 years here.
You do not need to look at bar girls as pretty as they are.
So if it makes you feel good then do it.
I remember another piece of advice from a friend in the states, relative to an American woman, if it feels good fine, if it doesn't don't make it complicated and leave.
Best option Run like hell.
tarzan7 wrote:Where do I find another my friend. Hear the same stories about girls from internet websites. Seems like the whole thing is a nightmare.
First off, I wouldn't recommend looking for a long-term serious relationship in a house of prostitution or anything like that. 
Secondly, remember that women like men as much as men like women. There's a woman out there (in fact many) looking for a guy like you. You just have to look for her.
Almost all Thai woman would love the financial support of any Farang. A Farang who has lived here for over 20 years gave me a piece of advice when it comes to Thai women. Tell them that it takes time, and use that time to TRUELY understand if this is the Thai woman for you. If not there is a long waiting list for your affection and financial support. I am not cynical, just a pragmatist.
As a suggestion why don't you ask her what she does with her free time. Ask her about any education ambitions. Up to you.
As I write this my 26 year old TG from Loei is getting herself ready for dinner out With our friends, most of them farangs who married ex Bar girls who in their considered opinion were worthy of trust and love. Most of them have been married happiy for a decade or more.
My first marriage to a TG was in 1980, she had been a Bar girl in Udon where I was based for 2 Years, we had 7 years of happiness until I lost her and one son while she was giving birth to twins.
I'm ready to marry my Thai lady late this year, she's passed all the tests over time and comes from good Issan stock, neither her family or her ask for anything.
We hardly ever hear from those farangs who have married Bar girls successfuly, simply because they're tired of defending TGs who are decent loyal women who've had to work the Bars for all the right reasons.
my friend also tried this [url][link moderated]
he said they help him find a good match
There’s a guy I chatted thru an app, he told me later it’s not his real picture and he made up stories OMG!
Now I’m kind of scared and tired of free dating app... It’s all over with scammer and fake guy. Most of people on free dating app is looking for a hookup.
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