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For the amount mentioned you should be able to get a decent apartment in Vung Tau without much trouble. There are several new buildings away from the beach areas but they still have services onsite or nearby.

Remember that the agent will want between 1% and 2% of the sale price so the seller will add that amount to the price they want. Don't forget to negotiate as it is a buyer market. Cash is king so use it to your advantage. Look at many apartments and watch out for the "maintenance fees" which can be higher than you first imagine.

If you use an agent then better get everything in writing. They may use the excuse that they cannot write in English. Get it in Vietnamese and then get it translated. Better safe than sorry

Hi Aspira, welcome to the forum,

RENT don鈥檛 BUY...聽

Do yourself a favour and lease a beachside place from $300 to $500 a month in places like Nha Trang , Da Nang etc.. These places are everywhere, and more being built everyday.聽

Then sit back , relax and do your homework & listen to people.聽 聽When Super fUnds are returning 10%.聽 聽Why would someone take $100k out of that and buy a poorly built piece of junk ( which most of them are)聽 which can be leased for about $500 a month, which is 6%.

As an owner you鈥檒l have management & maintenance fees,,,,but zero聽 maintenance is done & the place is managed by idiots.聽

The maths simply don鈥檛 stack up to buying anything here.

There are numerous threads on here about property . Read them and you鈥檒l probably think twice about buying here.聽 聽 Lease everything here mate...and I mean 鈥渆verything鈥�.馃槅

Hit the nail on the head

When money comes in the door, everything else goes out the window

Yep, it鈥檚 always a daily mind game here trying to get the 鈥� buy my own place鈥� idea out of my head.

As Aussies , we鈥檝e had the great Australian dream of home ownership drummed into us , and it鈥檚 hard to change the thinking.聽 聽 聽 I owner built 4 houses back home.聽 This stuff here would be lucky to pass a building inspection back home , unless Ray Charles was doing the inspection.

My rent is LESS than my electricity bill was back home,, and if there鈥檚 any issues with neighbours or the place falling apart,,,just move.

I like the place I lease.聽 Repainted it, new taps, a few lights , some fixtures etc & all for bugger all cash.聽 The landlady likes the way I look after it & the surrounds.聽 And it not a 鈥� hook鈥� , I鈥檓 not tied to it, don鈥檛 lose sleep worrying about can I sell it, getting the money out of here etc....聽 聽 聽As a retiree , you don鈥檛 need that crap.

Yogi also has concerns about investing his cash in places where there鈥檚 NO Rule of Law, No democracy, No Freedom of speech,聽 Rampant Corruption,聽 a BBB credit rating,聽 and a currency that is likely to crash with what鈥檚 in the headwinds here.聽

There鈥檚 a lot of smart , rIch VN getting there money OUT of here.聽 聽A lot is going into good ole Australia.聽 聽 If that鈥檚 not a 鈥渞ed flag鈥� I don鈥檛 know what is.

Not many foreigners have bought here.聽 聽 And of those that have , they are nearly ALL Asian flippers form聽 Sth Korea. China , Singapore.聽 These people are gamblers & speculators.聽 聽 聽Join them at your peril.

Yogi007 wrote:

My rent is LESS than my electricity bill was back home,, and if there鈥檚 any issues with neighbours or the place falling apart,,,just move. .

There goes the winning argument of all the Vietnam house buying threads.

Despite all the comments on this site about buying property in Vietnam, there are still individuals who seemed determined to take the plunge. They are adults and it's their money.

It could take them years to find out that what they bought will deteriorate over time due to poor building practises and poor building maintenance. They will probably not get their money back and all they'll get is grief.

When the crocodiles are snapping at your backside, you tend to forget why you are in the swamp in the first place.

blunders wrote:

When the crocodiles are snapping at your backside, you tend to forget why you are in the swamp in the first place.

I don't know if estate agents in Vietnam are typified by the lot we get spamming this forum but, if so, they're the best advert not to buy a house I've ever seen.

If real estate was such a good deal in Vietnam then there would not be so many "agents" circling the wagons and telling pork pies to potential customers

For expats who have children in Vietnam and may be thinking longer term, consider that by 2050, Vung Tau, Nha Trang, Qui Nhon, and Da Nang could be underwater in the literal sense and Saigon could have high tides coming up from the storm drains as Miami does now.

Ah Blunders.....

You know , I know , & every other dopey bugger here knows why we are in the Swamp.

It鈥檚 the cheap beer and something kind of similar to crocodiles snapping at your backside.馃槅馃槅

But they鈥檙e not crocodiles & they鈥檙e not aiming for your ass.

Storm drains - Thanh Da Island,聽 a suburb of Saigon already has river tides coming up through the storm drains and a large pumping station to try and deal with the problem.
As well as:
1. Global warming with increased sea levels, Saigon has further problems in that;

2. The suburbs are expanding south over mangrove swamps, so forces the tides further up river; and

3. Because of excessive pumping of groundwater from below the city, Saigon is SINKING, in some areas by six centimetres a year.

BTW, I do own my own house outside Nha Trang. My VN wife and I bought the land and built 15 years ago when prices were cheap, engaged the best builder in the area, and paid our carpenter brother in law to be our liaison man/supervisior. The build went two months over time, but not much over budget.

I agree with previous comments about totally dud builders in VN. Be very, very careful.

Yogi007 wrote:

Ah Blunders.....

You know , I know , & every other dopey bugger here knows why we are in the Swamp.

It鈥檚 the cheap beer and something kind of similar to crocodiles snapping at your backside.馃槅馃槅

But they鈥檙e not crocodiles & they鈥檙e not aiming for your ass.

Because of the many poor career, familial, and ultimately, financial life choices that spanned the last 50+ years of your lives? Honestly, there aren't any single 60+ year old male foreign retirees (being married in Vietnam post-retirement doesn't count either) are in Vietnam by choice.

The ones who claim to be financially independent (FI) while doing visa runs every three months and enduring the poor air quality, poor medical care, corrupt officials, unsanitary food, and unsafe traffic for cheap beer and tail at the ripe old age of 60+ are especially convincing and amusing.

No FI retiree downgrade their quality of life for cheap beer and tail at the expense of the negatives listed above. No one penny-pinches on health (and preventative care) unless they are unable to afford it, period.

The actual FI retirees can afford to have it all in Taiwan, S. Korea, Japan or even *shocker* their first-world Western country instead of complaining about everything under the sun in Vietnam.

Edit: If you feel offended, then it's true - please don't waste your time convincing me or anyone else reading otherwise because it simply will not warrant a response. Most, if not all of the locals in Vietnam are all aware of the general circumstances that have led you here.

I love the know it all people such as yourself who thinks he knows all of the answers.

Ha ha ha..馃槅
Yogi loves this stuff.聽 聽 He 鈥渂aits鈥澛� a hook , throws it out there to see what he can catch.聽

Caught a good one this time.馃�擆煠撀� 聽Keeps the forum interesting huh..

I like your style Kupo,,,tell it how it is & take no prisoners.聽 But in saying that I don鈥檛 think all of us fall into the category of womanising enebriates if they鈥檙e still single and over 60.聽

But I do think it would be a change of pace , and a lot of fun for Yogi to become a womaniser..... but I鈥檒l leave the heavy drinking part to the true believers.聽 聽And boy..can some of these blokes drink.聽

But sadly,聽 Yogi鈥檚 still a few years short of 60 , and has a nice lady friend here ...so there goes the womanising party boy gig.聽 聽And yes , she鈥檚 the main reason I鈥檓 still here.聽 But I bail out of here every 10 weeks for a break,,go back to OZ or down to Bali for some waves, keeps me sane馃槅聽 聽Then come back to beautiful Nha Trang and start the cycle again..it鈥檚 a good life.聽 聽No pollution, traffic gridlock etc here. Got a nice ocean view and sea breeze ( actually a strong wind today) ,it鈥檚 a good spot.聽 聽There鈥檚 NO way I could live in Saigon,,it鈥檚 a filthy dump .聽 聽It鈥檚 ranked at the bottom of the barrel in the World cIty Livability Index for a reason, just ahead of places like Lagos , Damascus.聽 Karachi & Caracas 馃槵馃槵

But the women & the cheap booze is a very common denominator in what attracts men to SE Asia......and like I said before, everyone knows that.聽 聽 But not all of SE Asia is like that.

For example, I鈥檝e done surf trips to Sumatra over the years.聽 It鈥檚 a beautiful place and great beaches,,but alcohol and chasing women is not a big scene there.聽 聽 They鈥檝e got Sharia Law聽 calling the shots in Aceh which is just up the road from where we used to go.

Play up there and they鈥檒l flog the daylights out of you with a lump of bamboo....馃槵馃槵 not many聽 long term expat party boys in that place .

I used to work in Singapore & Hong Kong.....a different scene again.

A lot of it comes down to the CBI..(cheap beer index) .聽 聽Places like Thailand., Phillipines, Vietnam, Cambodia are in that 鈥渋ndex鈥�...and they are also 鈥渇amous鈥� as destinations for sex tourists,, the two factors go hand in hand.聽 聽

Obviously not everyone comes here as a 鈥渘o hoper鈥� ,聽 but if they can鈥檛 control the booze & advances of opportunistic women , they will soon be on the skids as we see quite often.聽 聽You鈥檝e simply got to find a lifestyle that steers you away from the hazards.

THIGV wrote:

For expats who have children in Vietnam and may be thinking longer term, consider that by 2050, Vung Tau, Nha Trang, Qui Nhon, and Da Nang could be underwater in the literal sense and Saigon could have high tides coming up from the storm drains as Miami does now.

By 2050????? Have u been to QN lately? the basement lift has been a submarine for months

Kupo wrote:

Yogi007 wrote:

Ah Blunders.....

You know , I know , & every other dopey bugger here knows why we are in the Swamp.

It鈥檚 the cheap beer and something kind of similar to crocodiles snapping at your backside.馃槅馃槅

But they鈥檙e not crocodiles & they鈥檙e not aiming for your ass.

Because of the many poor career, familial, and ultimately, financial life choices that spanned the last 50+ years of your lives? Honestly, there aren't any single 60+ year old male foreign retirees (being married in Vietnam post-retirement doesn't count either) are in Vietnam by choice.

The ones who claim to be financially independent (FI) while doing visa runs every three months and enduring the poor air quality, poor medical care, corrupt officials, unsanitary food, and unsafe traffic for cheap beer and tail at the ripe old age of 60+ are especially convincing and amusing.

No FI retiree downgrade their quality of life for cheap beer and tail at the expense of the negatives listed above. No one penny-pinches on health (and preventative care) unless they are unable to afford it, period.

The actual FI retirees can afford to have it all in Taiwan, S. Korea, Japan or even *shocker* their first-world Western country instead of complaining about everything under the sun in Vietnam.

Edit: If you feel offended, then it's true - please don't waste your time convincing me or anyone else reading otherwise because it simply will not warrant a response. Most, if not all of the locals in Vietnam are all aware of the general circumstances that have led you here.

Taiwan, South Korea and Japan all have very cold winters, maybe some people enjoy the warmth, I know I do.

Same same here....hate the cold.

Khanh Hoa Province has arguably the best weather in SE Asia.聽 聽 Not much rain and the humidity is about the lowest for Vietnam.

Just south of here , Phan Rang聽 is like a desert & the dry air helps keep the humidity down.聽 聽Even at Cam Ranh airport it seems much hotter than here in NT only 25ks up the road.

Actually, where I am here is very close to where I鈥檓 based聽 in Australia , SE Qld ,,sunny coast. Not a lot of difference.

I agree, Yogi. My wife and went to visit distany relati es in Phan Rang and truly couldn't get out of that stinking oven quickly enough, which meant staying a second, sleepless night.

Good morning Ralph,
21c here this morning,,,,,Yogi might go into hibernation 馃槅

You鈥檒l be amused to hear that during the recent Typhoon two cranes got blown off the top of some very large apartment projects in the middle of town.聽 聽Now it鈥檚 a bun fight over who pays for the damage.馃��
You鈥檝e got the Developer, the project contractor, the crane operator, the insurance companies..........and God.聽 聽 聽

No surprises who the insurance company has blamed it on 馃槅

And..it鈥檚 still blowing a gale here this morning.

Thanks for the weather update, Yogi. Storms = good waves at Bai Dai. So head off down there quickly.
The crane problem sounds fun to sort out: whose blaming who blaming who. A typical, good old Vietnamese blame game run around. I'm looking forward to a few Budwiesers next month when we come back for a visit. I can also check the lean on the Leaning Tower of Nha Trang. No doubt the blame run around is still going on for that, too.

A very good wave yesterday on Hon Chong beach,,, 4ft sets.聽
The leaning tower is being pulled apart . They are jack hammering the top three floors to comply with the permit regulations.聽 聽But that鈥檚 just a bluff we think.聽 They鈥檝e now stopped the jackhammering.聽 聽

They went to court to try and have the original permit that allowed 48 floors reinstated.聽 Court said NO....maybe hanging out for a bribe to change their decision.聽 聽 SO.....developer ( who鈥檚 an SOE anyway) said ok...we will pull it down as you wish.聽 聽 No bribes in that .

No it鈥檚 all stopped.聽 聽The standoff is on again.聽 Typical Vietnamese way of doing business.聽 Personally ,I think the laws are meant to be broken to enable the bribe culture to survive.聽 聽Great idea huh....

The actual lean on the building is now disputed as well.聽 An engineer looking at it said 鈥渘o problem, is OK鈥�.聽 聽 He works for the developer I suppose , but looking at it I really can鈥檛 see an angle in any direction.聽

I know two people that have already paid 70% on their apartments. 馃��

PS?
Currently 23c , overcast, NE breeze 15nts, chance of a late shower. 馃槅馃槅馃槅