Banking questions / moving to VN for long term /
I have several questions embedded here and hope someone can off some advice:
I am a 58 year old teacher moving to either Hanoi or Yen Bai area. I will most likely marry and stay for many many years. If I wanted to I could draw my USA teacher's pension today and live comfortably in Vietnam, however I want to teach for two more years until I am 60. I understand, from other forum posts that Vietnam does not accept direct deposits from the USA, therefore my teacher's retirement monthly check would need to go into an account in the USA and then I transfer money to my Vietnamese bank. I understand others have discussed the fact that social security check also cannot be direct deposit to Vietnam.
So, I have a US teacher's retirement and social security (at 62) monthly check that I need to direct deposit into the appropriate US bank account.
Questions from the above paragraph:
I heard 60 is mandatory retirement for Vietnamese men. Can I, a US citizen, continue teaching past 60?
Can most US banks transfer money to Vietnamese banks, quickly and reliably?
Can transfers of money from a US bank to a Vietnamese bank be in large chunks, 10-20K (to buy a car).
Next item relates to keeping all of my wealth (401K, other mutual fund type assets) in the USA. From what I have read it is probably wise for me to keep the bulk of my wealth in the US.
Any one have thoughts otherwise?
Regarding ATM's - I was in Hanoi this summer and used several ATM's scattered throughout the city and got cash. I just let my US bank know I was in Vietnam an had no problem. But, there is a maximum daily limit on ATM withdrawals, so if I want to buy a 20K car an ATMÂ is not the source for that. Again, anyone have experience frequently requesting their US bank transfer large chunks (10-20k) from the US to an Agri Bank in VN?
Appreciate any feedback!
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An alternative bank for free transfers is HSBC. Things may have changed, but when I checked, the balance requirement for free checking on the US side was prohibitively high.
As far as investments, although Vietnamese cash deposit rates may seem high, the net gets chopped down quite a bit after inflation. My own preference is broad based US ETF's which don't have to be watched daily.  Best to keep your investments in the US and transfer as needed for living.
I think your Direct Deposit info is outdated, @schleger.
Here is a thread I started a while back regarding an update to U.S. Social Security policy:
/forum/viewtopic.p … 80#4166157
I can also refer you to a wealth management firm in Hanoi that might meet your needs.
Private message me if you want that info.
Social Security checks and direct deposits are made to the Bangkok Bank's branch in New York City - then you draw against it in HCMC o Hanoi. literally hundreds of US Expats in Thailand do this because it is the only bank the SS Administration will send annuity checks to for them to draw against. One good thing is there are no fees for withdrawal since it is its own branch of the Bangkok Bank.  This is only a suggestion, I'd check with the Bangkok branch in HCMC or Hanoi first. You have to Open the acct in Vietnam forst, then have your checks sent directly to the Bangkok Banks branch in New York. easy as pie.
Our SS and pension are DD to Charles Schwab and stay there, collecting a tiny bit of interest every day. We withdraw local currency from any ATM in the world ($1000 daily limit) and Schwab reimburses all fees at the end of each month. Â
Unlike the OP, we don't plan to buy a $10K - $20K car so that'll never be a problem for us. Still, if we suddenly need $10K in VND, we can withdraw it over a period of 5 days (2 ATM cards) without paying a dime in fee.
No need to find a bank, no need to find the right ATM, no waiting for the money to go through, no maintenance fee in the States, no ATM fee anywhere in the world, no foreign transaction fee, and always with excellent exchange rate (a couple pennies lower than Bloomberg, a couple pennies higher than Oanda.)Â
No fuss, no muss.
THIGV wrote:The problem with SWIFT transfers is that they are billed at a fixed rate, usually about $30-45 per transaction. If you are transferring $50,000 to buy an apartment that's fine. If you are moving $1,000 to cover monthly family living expenses, the fee will be 3-4% of value. Your money, your choice.
I bank with Charles Schwab for all of the reasons @Ciambella mentioned in her post subsequent to yours.
Schwab's flat fee is $25.00 for single wire transfers, any amount, so 2.5% for $1,000.00 USD.
But since (as @Ciambella has mentioned) $1,000.00 USD is the daily ATM withdrawal limit for Schwab, I would rarely need to make a wire transfer unless I needed $5,000.00 USD or more in a very short period of time.
[NOTE: the receiving bank in Việt Nam is likely going to charge a fee for the transfer, unless it is waived because of an account relationship with them.]
The only caveat to my plan being: $1,000.00 USD currently = ₫ 23,277,001.27 VND (08-12-2018) and from what I understand, this exceeds the daily withdrawal limit allowed by most banks in Việt Nam...(I'm asking???)
I suppose the answer to that is using multiple banks, or (as @Ciambella has also mentioned) withdrawing the VND I need over multiple days in non-urgent situations.
Also (FWIW) Schwab doesn't charge anything for transfers between accounts I own at other U.S. financial institutions.
I have one pension direct deposited to Schwab, while my SSA money goes into another bank which is totally free of fees.
Something about a basket and eggs... 
OceanBeach92107 wrote:The only caveat to my plan being: $1,000.00 USD currently = ₫ 23,277,001.27 VND (08-12-2018) and from what I understand, this exceeds the daily withdrawal limit allowed by most banks in Việt Nam...(I'm asking???)
I suppose the answer to that is using multiple banks, or (as @Ciambella has also mentioned) withdrawing the VND I need over multiple days in non-urgent situations.
We regularly withdraw 12M ($513 as of today's exchange) from the same ATM over 4 transactions on the same day (end the first transaction, re-insert card for the 2nd transaction, lather, rinse, repeat.)Â
We've never needed $1000 on the same day, but if we do, we probably could continue the same process, or using my ATM card in addition to husband's.
The daily withdrawal limit set by VN bank is for a VN account. VN banks do not have the authority to impose daily limit on a foreign account. The more transactions you do, the more fee per transaction they charge so why should they care?Â
Of course you can also step over to the next ATM as they usually stand in a cluster.
Ciambella wrote:[We regularly withdraw 12M ($513 as of today's exchange) from the same ATM over 4 transactions on the same day (end the first, insert card again for the 2nd, lather, rinse, repeat.)


Another reason to keep your money in a US bank: rule of law and consumer protections are weaker in small countries.
schleger wrote:... I will most likely marry ...
Yet another reason to keep your money in a US bank: How well do you know your future wife and family?

Tediuki wrote:Wow! There's a lot of information in the answers so far to absorb! I'll answer some of the peripheral stuff .
Teaching? There's no problem in Viet Nam teaching beyond 60 years old although you will need a CELTA certificate or something along those lines because 99.9% of foreign teachers teach English . Your birth year will also disappear into the agencies files . I keep myself looking trim and fit, I keep the grey hair in check and lie at the schools about my age. Try to work hand in hand with the local teachers and never complain. Â
Money transfers? The best advice I had was to Find a bank in my own country who would transfer money in the original form i.e.. Dollars . Why? Because I could transfer Dollars to my account (opened with a tourist Visa) in Viet Nam and it would be converted to vnd at pretty much the exchange rate shown on Bloomberg or I would put it into my US$ account . Â
I'll ask what the current situation is next time I go into one of my banks but a lot of laws have changed since 2015 and made it far more favourable for foreigners to invest .
Interest versus inflation? To get 8% interest you must have a term deposit for at least a year in vnd.
Interest is Tax free in Nam . Inflation is around 4% (I looked last year on some international sovereign Nation health check site).
Repatriating your money? As long as you don't move your money from the original bank account to which you transferred your money to, you can wire your money back to the original foreign sending account for up to 3 years.
Placing a bet:Â From 2006 - 2016 the USA was sliding down the pan . With the current US fiscal policy the US Dollar is likely to strengthen so it may be prudent to delay any large transfers or try to get a US$ account in Nam. But interest on a US$ account is rubbish . You are basically betting that the exchange rate will go up in the next year by 8% as there has been a recent gain already .
A car! You may be better off using a Grab Motorbike to get from A to B in the big cities, or a Taxi in the rain . Both are relatively cheap . It's also best to live as close as possible to work rather than buying a car . I have bought a second hand Yamaha Nouvo but I've ridden bikes my whole life .
Interesting point about sending money home that you originally sent to VN. I wonder how that works if the bank you originally sent it to is not operating in VN, eg ANZ. I have the original deposit slips to the ANZ, so Im hoping that the bank I deal with now will be able to transfer the funds back.
Bazza139 wrote:Thank you for telling it like it is...  Â
I found what Tediuki wrote helpful.
If the same post had come from Cobot, Ciambella, Yogi or other serial expats, there would have been a "Like" from you.
Perhaps it would make sense to introduce a "Dislike" at ´ó¿§¸£ÀûÓ°Ôº in addition to the "Like".
Then Bazza can save himself the cryptic "dislike" comments in the future.
Andy Passenger wrote:Bazza139 wrote:Thank you for telling it like it is...  Â
I found what Tediuki wrote helpful.
If the same post had come from Cobot, Ciambella, Yogi or other serial expats, there would have been a "Like" from you.
Perhaps it would make sense to introduce a "Dislike" at ´ó¿§¸£ÀûÓ°Ôº in addition to the "Like".
Then Bazza can save himself the cryptic "dislike" comments in the future.
I was fooled. I actually thought BAZZA was giving a sincere compliment.
Just what I needed. Another language to learn... 
ANYWAY, with a Timo card, you can get 20,000,000 VND in ONE transaction at a VP Bank ATM; you can do this ten times a day, or so I'm led to believe. Which means you can withdraw 200,000,000 VND per day which is staggering, but that's what I've been told.
I don't have the need to withdraw that amount of money on a daily basis, so I can't confirm/deny if the 200,000,000 is true, but I can confirm you can get 20,000,000 out in one transaction.
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