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saigonmonkey wrote:

Ancientpathos,

Although I'm married, I do hang out in bars in my free time - sometimes my wife even joins me. I/we enjoy talking to the girls working there, (the ones who speak good English) and have learned a lot about Vietnamese culture from them. But, like you, I've wondered how many of them really just want to meet an ex-pat and get a free ticket out of Vietnam. So I straight-up ask them. Surprisingly, although most would like to meet and have an ex-pat boyfriend, they would prefer to stay in Vietnam so they can remain close to their family. I don't know where you're meeting all these girls who only want the marriage visa. I've been here 7 years and only met a handful. Given they know I'm not a potential candidate for a relationship, I don't see why they would lie about their intentions to me.

We should dig their mind very deeply for details . Then only we understand them well. It's very difficult to read their mind. Need time. Bar/club meeting not enough to learn a girl or boy :
I have an interesting story about this. I worked with a Korean Boss. Many times聽 he compelled me to drink some wine. Even though I denied politely he continue his 'invitation' torture. One day I decided to share drink with him in that company party and drink too much red wine, vomit and intoxicated. Actually he belief that we can easily dig one's mind if they are in intoxicated. Anyway, when I intoxicated he get nothing. This I understood after sometime when he gave another treat to a newbie who joined with our team.

Ken Charma

saigonmonkey wrote:

Surprisingly, although most would like to meet and have an ex-pat boyfriend, they would prefer to stay in Vietnam so they can remain close to their family.

Bar girls, they love the party life so an expat boyfriend is all they need. These girls know how to talk so its not likely they would make themselves sound desperate by saying they would. If given the chance, I reckon most of them girls would go.

Ready2jump wrote:

Greetings from California. I am contemplating a move to either Vietnam or Thailand.聽 Most websites rave about Thailand.聽 The verdict is not so clear on Vietnam.聽
One worry is all the warnings about stifling heat & humity.聽 Also the simple things....saynIm home and don't want to go out...what's on the TV?聽 Anything in English?
I am a good looking, fit guy who is lucky enough to have a better than average pension....so I would like my lifestyle to be better than here.....and it's not bad here!
Any and all perspectives are helpful.

Greetings and welcome to Vietnam!
I lived in Thailand earlier some short term and came back again here. Why should you scare little hot or humidity when you are grown and lived with fire?
I think it's better for you to relax here from your heavy tax.
So many of our members living here peacefully. You can see their postings if you check this forum.
Anyway, decision is yours!
Good luck!

Ken Charma

thanhmai296 wrote:

I see, mu mom always told me that, let marriage with a foreigner. ha ha
I dont think so, it's only good to make friend.

Yeah, even if children do not wish, their parents mislead them because of poverty... or greedy mind, Mai!
Greedy is vested in our blood, no escape!

Ken Charma

cth wrote:

saigonmonkey wrote:

Surprisingly, although most would like to meet and have an ex-pat boyfriend, they would prefer to stay in Vietnam so they can remain close to their family.

Bar girls, they love the party life so an expat boyfriend is all they need. These girls know how to talk so its not likely they would make themselves sound desperate by saying they would. If given the chance, I reckon most of them girls would go.

So many of students hates to learn English. But for the above mentioned reasons they compel to learn. When I have free time usually I go and sit in Ben Thanh park to relax and also help to converse with students from nearby Universities. Nowadays so many of them cut class and go park to meet foreigners to learn English. I was watching them long time. One interesting thing that I understood is, most of them visiting park to make some 'alliance', or even they wish to go outing with foreigners.Not only for learning English. When they meet a foreigner one of their 'must' question is: 'Are you married?'. So many students skipped very nicely from me after they know I am not a bachelor!

Ken Charma

cth wrote:

Bar girls, they love the party life so an expat boyfriend is all they need. These girls know how to talk so its not likely they would make themselves sound desperate by saying they would. If given the chance, I reckon most of them girls would go.

Your profile indicates you are not yet an ex-pat. So exactly how much time have you spent in bars in Vietnam to be so sure about this?

Not to get into a debate about the intentions of others, but I stand by my original post. Yes, there are party girls in the bars who only want an ex-pat boyfriend to fund their lifestyle. But there are also quite a few who work every day/night at the bar, finish at about 2 or 3 a.m., go home, go to bed, and sleep until time to get up and go to work again the next day. Not much time for partying with that schedule.

cth wrote:

You 'straight up' asked them, u think they would 'straight up' tell you?

Yes - the ones I talk with would, because I've known them for years. And they know what most of the other girls they work with think as well.

I would like to know where Ancientpathos meets most of the girls he thinks want a marriage visa. Maybe he'll come back to us with that info sometime.

thanhmai296 wrote:

I see, mu mom always told me that, let marriage with a foreigner. ha ha
I dont think so, it's only good to make friend.

Your mum prefers you to be married with a foreigner?

Why dont you think so???

thanhmai296 wrote:

I dont know, just I dont think about marriage with a foreigner.
))

Maybe it might work out right. WHo knows?

What about a relationship with a foreigner?

thanhmai296 wrote:

^^ Im trying to understand you Mr. Manager

In this case, we have to communicate more. I would also like to know more of you.

Don't call me Mr manager. Hahahahhaa

lostsouls wrote:

thanhmai296 wrote:

^^ Im trying to understand you Mr. Manager

In this case, we have to communicate more. I would also like to know more of you.

Don't call me Mr manager. Hahahahhaa

I suggest both of you should chat through pm:D

Ken Charma

charmavietnam wrote:

lostsouls wrote:

thanhmai296 wrote:

^^ Im trying to understand you Mr. Manager

In this case, we have to communicate more. I would also like to know more of you.

Don't call me Mr manager. Hahahahhaa

I suggest both of you should chat through pm:D

Ken Charma

Hahahha. Thanks, ken.

VungTauDon wrote:

Maybe I am in the minority here but I've been married 3 years (on 23/5) to a wonderful Vietnamese woman who 1 Never planned or thought she would marry a聽 foreigner聽 and 2 has no plans to leave Vietnam. She wants to visit my family someday but has made it very clear that she will not move away from her family.

In Vietnam, family comes 1st for them & nothing else comes close.

VungTauDon wrote:

Maybe I am in the minority here but I've been married 3 years (on 23/5) to a wonderful Vietnamese woman who 1 Never planned or thought she would marry a聽 foreigner聽 and 2 has no plans to leave Vietnam. She wants to visit my family someday but has made it very clear that she will not move away from her family.

You can add me to that group.

Ken Charma

thanhmai296 wrote:

almost people think that US is the best - political, social,legal, education, human, entertainment. That's why they wanna live in US.
Like me, I want my children can study and live in US to to get the best education, the best civilized society...
With an oriental views, I love my family and wanna stay in Vietnam to take care of them. However, we will consider what is better when we choose somewhere to live.

As I stated earlier, you too have 'that' in your blood Mai! If you are undergoing a narco analysis test it will reveal
Who told you that U.S. only has the good education system?

Ken Charma

thanhmai296 wrote:

almost people think that US is the best - political, social,legal, education, human, entertainment. That's why they wanna live in US.
Like me, I want my children can study and live in US to to get the best education, the best civilized society...
With an oriental views, I love my family and wanna stay in Vietnam to take care of them. However, we will consider what is better when we choose somewhere to live.

I beg to differ, Mai. Its true that all Vietnamese that I knew wants to get out of Vietnam & move to USA. But USA is not all that good as Vietnamese percieved.

Take Singapore for example. Singapore is a 1st world country & its still evolving. The pace is so fast that citizens couldnt keep up with probably the highest living standard in South East Asia. Many people are struggling to pay bills, loans even though they're average income earners. Many Singaporeans want out of the country & move to Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand. So do you think USA is in any way better?

As for childhood, this is my personal opinion. I grew up in a village in Malaysia & my chilhood was catching spiders, playing in the drains, rain, getting myself all dirty, etc. what do kids play nowadays? IPAD, IPhone, LAN games, things to do with technology. Wheres the childhood fun? These are what the kids in Singapore & around the world are doing.

What I can say is Singapore's kids for example going to school are facing ernomous stress. The education now is totally different from past decades. you dont get 1+1=2 type of teaching in elementary 1 anymore

I dont know if you understand what I've written.

ancientpathos wrote:

Thanks everyone for their input.聽 I am amazed at the amount of responses. Maybe i need to go to the bars...lol聽 Or perhaps i should just auction myself for a marriage visa...

Hahahah.

No need to find girls at bars. I believe most of us have experiences with them. I had my fair share with bar girls in Singapore too

Just keep an open mind & eyes. You'll find your soulmate soon.