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Priscilla wrote:

browse local newspapers, listen to local radio stations or watch local TV shows.

Unless one speaks Hungarian, there are not really any non-Hungarian options for radio or TV. I use to tune into some central European short wave broadcasts in English, but my radio broke, so have not kept up on those.

Some regional English papers in Budapest et. al, but not really high quality journalism.

Some "external" Internet sites, but mostly appear to be US libertarian (thinking or outright) owned. So have their own bias.

In short, all media here I would say are biased in one direction or another. Difficult to find objective reporting.

Priscilla wrote:

What are the major media in Hungary?

Either nationally owned (24 hours of pro-government reporting), or outlets owned by local oligarchs, or as mentioned above. Most are biased. So not much of a local choice

Priscilla wrote:

Which one do you use on a regular basis?

, but only because I am interested in local finance issues.

Priscilla wrote:

How do you keep up with international issues (newspapers, radio, TV, Internet)?

Internet. I find international news more objective. But they miss all the daily details that happen in Hungary that really affect everyone here.

Priscilla wrote:

Thank you in advance!

Of course. Alway happy to give my views.

fluffy2560 wrote:

I get my news by gossiping with Mrs Fluffy who in turn gets her news from Facebook.

Gossip about butter knives is particularly dangerous. Everyone knows how those things spread.....

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Sometimes ignorance is bliss...

I knew an expat who lived in (I won't say where) and said if he kept informed about local events he was constantly miserable because of all the social injustice, but if he did not read the local papers it was a pretty nice place to live.

Just saying this as a interesting story. Not for me to judge him in either case. I will let others draw their own social conclusions about fight or flight.

klsallee wrote:

... said if he kept informed about local events he was constantly miserable because of all the social injustice, but if he did not read the local papers it was a pretty nice place to live...

I'm with that expat.  Mrs Fluffy filters the nonsense out.  Unfortunately she gets really stressed. 

I've told her not to worry about it but she says, "you're lucky sometimes you don't understand" as obviously she cannot ignore people gossiping in her native tongue in the supermarket queue. 

There's obviously an upside to being a non-speaker.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Mrs Fluffy filters the nonsense out.

My wife filters nothing to me about local events. But I can always say, "well, let me tell you this story I read about what happened in the USA today".

Sadly, I often "win" on the shaking-your-head-can't-believe-it scale. But then again, I have an edge: there are simply more chances to reach new lows with 300 million people than with just 9 million.

However, I do admit I am struggling to beat some news she told me today.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

Mrs Fluffy filters the nonsense out.

My wife filters nothing to me about local events. But I can always say, "well, let me tell you this story I read about what happened in the USA today".

Sadly, I often "win" on the shaking-your-head-can't-believe-it scale. But then again, I have an edge: there are simply more chances to reach new lows with 300 million people than with just 9 million.

I dunno, in theory, the filtering should be good enough to make sure special interest is taken care of but not so widely drawn as to eliminate whatever takes your fancy.  In other words remove the background noise.

Google is your "friend" wherever you live as their profiling selections are clearly always correct*.   

With Google filtering, quite clearly you should not be allowed wonder why news about viniculture should include references soul music (i.e. .."I heard it on the grapevine"). Obvious.

klsallee wrote:

However, I do admit I am struggling to beat some news she told me today.

Now, you cannot wave that about and not expect us to ask what the news was?!

*That's a joke by the way.

davidpearce wrote:

I use . It is of liberal persuasion and not suitable for supporters of Fidesc or Jobbik.

I suppose the journalists there will be sending their medals back.

Fidesz/Jobbik reminds me  of the US George Dubya's election.  Shock wasn't that half people voted for the other candidate, it's that half the people actively voted for George Dubya.   

Fast forward to 2016: Trump vs Clinton.  Deja vu.  QED. RSVP.

fluffy2560 wrote:

davidpearce wrote:

I use . It is of liberal persuasion and not suitable for supporters of Fidesc or Jobbik.

I suppose the journalists there will be sending their medals back.

That site is a US based, mostly blog/commentary/analysis site about Hungarian politics, and mostly written by one person. The author does a service by making many issues in Hungary accessible to English speakers, but despite her personal credentials, I for one can not call it an objective source for news. Of course, neither are many other so called "news" outlets, so take that all for what it is worth.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Fidesz/Jobbik reminds me  of the US George Dubya's election.  Shock wasn't that half people voted for the other candidate, it's that half the people actively voted for George Dubya.

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fluffy2560 wrote:

klsallee wrote:

However, I do admit I am struggling to beat some news she told me today.

Now, you cannot wave that about and not expect us to ask what the news was?!

Marilyn Tassy wrote:

Now I am very curious about today's news as well!

I looked. I really, really looked. But could not find anything about it in English.

Here is the article in Hungarian:



If you can not find a translator, it basically boils down to:

fluffy2560 wrote:

That's  not a usable picture for a "most wanted - dead or alive" poster.

I used a rather famous MEME image. Thought everyone would get it.

klsallee wrote:

fluffy2560 wrote:

That's  not a usable picture for a "most wanted - dead or alive" poster.

I used a rather famous MEME image. Thought everyone would get it.

Errr....no....but then again I've got a rotten cold and not on top form today....

However, I Google'd and now I know.  Never noticed him before so not on my radar.

klsallee wrote:

For what it is worth:

Two of Mrs Fluffy's contacts are relatively well known journalists. 

According to the rumour mill, the paper criticised the powers that be over the referendum etc and the owners were threatened. 

Of course, only rumours.

fluffy2560 wrote:

Of course, only rumours.

The paper had registering a fiscal loss for some years now. A more realistic, even if more mundane, "rumor" is that the paper lost its left leaning base because those who are left leaning have given up on Hungary, moved elsewhere in the EU, and thus the paper became no longer fiscally sustainable due to a shrinking reader/advertiser base.

For example, from:

But the opposition is deflated; as in Turkey, Russia and Venezuela, there is an overriding resignation that the country will not change, that the best and brightest will continue to flee, seeking a better future.

klsallee wrote:

....The paper had registering a fiscal loss for some years now. A more realistic, even if more mundane, "rumor" is that the paper lost its left leaning base because those who are left leaning have given up on Hungary, moved elsewhere in the EU, and thus the paper became no longer fiscally sustainable due to a shrinking reader/advertiser base..... the best and brightest will continue to flee, seeking a better future.[/i]

Yes I think that is more like the right reason. 

I was musing over this earlier on and I will muse some more.

I wonder if we will see 2nd, 3rd or 4th waves of returnees except instead of fleeing communism etc and coming back on the change of system, we'll see a wave of economic returnees who have done well outside, perhaps on a generational schedule with bumps on 10-20-30 years post-EU accession and opening of the EU job market.  They'll come back to the mothership as naturalised citizens of another state, bringing their foreign kids and non-HU cultural assimilation. Personally I find that an attractive proposition to be aspirational.  The UK (and many other countries) are real melting pots and have done well from diversity.  I don't see that in HU in the same way.

Back to the newspaper, it's a small market. I think the journalists can find another path to express themselves.  On the other hand, anything reducing the opposition press will make the political landscape less rich.