Best place for a family to live?
I'm new to the forum and after reading loads of threads I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping I can get help with.
We're a family with two children, ages 4 and 15, so we're looking for a good area to live that will hopefully suit us all if possible (one of us is approaching 40 and the other is just over 40 if that helps). We've been in touch with Frank Salt and they've suggested Swieqi, which looks like what we're after on paper, but having never been to Malta we're open to any suggestions. Our children will be going to state school, so we want to be within the catchment area for Sliema secondary school. We've been in touch and the school sounds ideal having lots of nationalities being taught there.
We're looking at three bed apartments, although we've only ever lived in detached houses so we're unsure of the advantages and disadvantages of higher/lower floors. Is there any when it comes to noise, cold, heat, etc.
There's probably loads more questions regarding where to live, but those are the two main ones for now.
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Build quality is very poor in Malta with very few flats having central heating, double glazing or cavity wall insulation.
Nearly all the flats will be cold, so check on heating provided plus air con in the summer is a must.
Damp can be a huge problem!
Anything below the top floor will be noisy, think tiled floors and high heal shoes and echoing hallways.
You should really try to arrange a visit before you move over, if only to look at different areas to live!
I'm sure others will contribute plus loads of information regarding rental properties to browse through on the site.
Good luck
         Terry
terry is right about damp , and about coming to visit
we live on the ground floor in a converted terrace house and although there are people living above us we hardly hear them , the most noisy thing we have is the church bells
I think it sounds like we should avoid ground floors because I'm not into uninvited creepy crawlies making their way in. We've arranged a quick visit for next weekend to view some apartments, it's the only time we can come before moving over so that's why I wanted to hopefully be looking in the right area for us. At the moment we're just looking at Swieqi with that being the only place suggested at the moment. I've researched other areas and that's the one that seems more us and within our price range.
I don't get the damp thing, even though I've read a lot about it and people find it a problem. I remember when we lived in England the beds used to get cold and maybe damp in the winter, is it the same in Malta or a lot worse? We've lived in the south of France for the last ten years and only have electric wall heating for the winter, but we don't experience any damp at all so it's hard to get my head around why damp is a problem. Is it the lack of heating, or the poor insulation? How long is damp a problem for and can it be sorted with making sure the property is heated properly within those months?
Not helped buy lack of proper insulation.
The Maltese don't build flats, they throw them together as cheaply as possible.
Terry

Sam4321 wrote:Thanks for the replies.
I think it sounds like we should avoid ground floors because I'm not into uninvited creepy crawlies making their way in.
creepy crawlies are on of my biggest fears, the first time i saw a cockroach in the house i freaked but now its quite interesting to see the different variety of wildlife who come in for a chat , the lizard was one of the funniest he ran in round the bathroom and ran straight out again , you get used to them after a while and most dont cause any harm. the other thing we have is the cats who will sit out side the door miaowing their heads off - i have tried talking to them but my maltese really isnt that great
be careful in summer whaterver floor you live on not to leave windows open .. flys , mosquitos and flying cockroaches like to visit but I reccomend BOP lol its a fly spray that kills all flying insects.
we have found food in the kitchen cubaoards can get damp even if it doesnt look damp , things like salt and cereals , if its in a cardboard package .. so tupperware is your friend lol
we have a dehumidifier this helps a lot
rooikat wrote:Try to find an apartment with airconditioners in the living area and bedrooms as they work well in both summer and the approx 3 months of winter - however they can wipe out your Eco allowance on your utilities bill if used in excess.
Thanks for that. It's really useful to know what to look for when we come over. I've read loads of the forum, but I don't have a clue what the Eco allowance is. I seem to remember seeing it mentioned, but can't find any information about what exactly it is?
robpw2 wrote:creepy crawlies are on of my biggest fears, the first time i saw a cockroach in the house i freaked but now its quite interesting to see the different variety of wildlife who come in for a chat , the lizard was one of the funniest he ran in round the bathroom and ran straight out again , you get used to them after a while and most dont cause any harm. the other thing we have is the cats who will sit out side the door miaowing their heads off - i have tried talking to them but my maltese really isnt that great
be careful in summer whaterver floor you live on not to leave windows open .. flys , mosquitos and flying cockroaches like to visit but I reccomend BOP lol its a fly spray that kills all flying insects.
we have found food in the kitchen cubaoards can get damp even if it doesnt look damp , things like salt and cereals , if its in a cardboard package .. so tupperware is your friend lol
we have a dehumidifier this helps a lot
That's useful to know about the dehumidifier and tupperware. I suppose it'll take a while to get used to how the different climate will affect things, including what insects come for a visit. I think it might've been one of your posts that I read about a cockraoch near your bed? Since then I've been having a slight panic about them, but I've not read up on them yet because I don't want to freak out too much before we get there. We're used to lizards and scorpions and have even had a snake in the house, but cockroaches will be very new to us.
We are a family of four in the uk looking at moving over to malta. Can I just ask you did you go and have a look round at the weekend and if so how did you get on. We are also little unsure were to live and are focusing on area close to good school as we have 11 year old twins who will be going high school but really if possible don't want them in separated schools I have noticed a lot of schools are boy and girl only.
Any advice tips will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
We haven't visited any schools yet, but we have been in touch by phone with the boys secondary school in Sliema. They told us that public schools in Sliema don't do mixed sexes when they get to secondary, but that might be different in private schools.Â
Personally, but only due to research, I've been focusing on the St Julian/Sliema areas to be in the catchment for their schools, purely because of the amount of international students they have. We've been told that if you go further inland or to the South, your chances of getting a public school with lots of different nationalities gets slimmer. The one in Sliema made a point of saying that they have lots of different nationalities in their school and apart from religion and Maltese, they'll be taught in English. Failing that, they'll be given a sheet in English so Maltese won't be necessary for lessons at that age. I thought this would be better for my son because he already speaks two languages and I didn't want him to need Maltese at school. I'm not too bothered about my daughter having to learn Maltese with her only being four, so I've not researched schools for her yet.
So, basically because of the research when it came to public schools for my son, I was led to the Sliema and St Julian areas. The rest is personal to what you want. At the moment we live in the middle of nowhere and have to drive everywhere, so we wanted to be within walking distance to life. Swieqi looks perfect, it's quieter and more residential, yet within a 15 minute walk to St Julian, Paceville and Sliema.
Thank you for getting back to me all information is much appreciated. Yes of I have noticed most secondary schools are split my Husband things this maybe better for them in long run but they have never been separated before and always been in same class never mind school. So I feel maybe a massive impact on them specially on top of everything else and they are both shy characters especially my Daughter. Have found couple but would workout quite expensive.
Will have to have a look at Swieqi don't think have come across that area yet. Have you found any accommodation there yet.
How did your 15 year old feel about you moving our twins aren't impressed at all.
Hope your move goes well in three weeks you will have to keep me posted let me know how you settle.
Thanks Faye.
My son is excited about moving. He's also painfully shy, but he's up for an adventure. He wasn't sure about the single sex schools at first, but like your husband I think it will be a good thing. We've already moved areas once within France, like a lot of French people do, so he doesn't make long term friends as much as an English kid would. Since starting school he's lost lots of friends as their families move on, so I don't think leaving his friends is an issue. He's definitely up for a new experience, even though he's painfully shy.
I think kids cope and adapt very well with a move, I know he did when we first moved to France when he was four and had to learn a whole new language. Your kids will appreciate the chance they've had as they get older. because it's a great life experience for them moving to another country.
Yes think your right kids do adapt just hope if we do they don't hate it. They do have their own group of friends with being boy girl twins but just hope doesn't have a negative impact on them being in different schools. As friends they have have been their friends since age 4 and they are really close with each other do homework together hang out together etc.
That sounds great the apartment would love new and modern. Do you and your Husband have jobs lined up already over there.
Also I have heard crazy things about the traffic driving over there how did you find it is it really as bad as you hear.
Sorry for all the questions.
We both work from home, so luckily we don't need to find jobs in Malta.Â
I was scared of the driving after reading about it as well, so we planned to take the hire car from the airport to the hotel and never use it again. In the end we wanted to see more of Malta, so we just took the car out and I can honestly say that we didn't experience any of what I've read. French drivers are far worse if you've ever experienced driving in France. They'll overtake when it's not safe and even overtake cars that stop at crossings to allow people to cross, so we're used to being cautious as pedestrians as well. The drivers in Malta stopped to let you out and cross the road in places, so to us it was a pleasant change. The only thing that I did notice was they tend to just pull out without looking, but again we're used to that in France. Italian drivers are much worse than French drivers, so I'm wondering whether that might have anything to do with the reputation of Maltese drivers. All my first hand experiences are outside of the main tourist season, so I do wonder whether things will change when more tourists arrive.
How long have you been planning your move for has it taken a long time to get sorted. Did you visit Malta a few times before hand.
Thanks.
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Reference the driving, to a UK or German, Swiss etc outsider it will seem chaotic and undisciplined. To the French, Italian and Portuguese it will seem serene. (Generalisations, I know but based upon experience).
Amazingly, despite the very high vehicle per head of population ratio, the congestion in some areas and the poor standard of driving, Malta has one of the lowest accident rates in Europe. The driving in our square on a Saturday or Sunday morning is a wonder to behold, yet no accidents. Out of chaos, comes order.
fayeb wrote:I suppose the driving would be a real eye open for us. When you were looking round accommodation do you know if anyone lets you rent with pets as we have a dog who we would want to bring with us.
How long have you been planning your move for has it taken a long time to get sorted. Did you visit Malta a few times before hand.
Thanks.
I think it's much harder if you're wanting to rent when you've got a pet, but it is possible. Our contract states no pets, including birds, cats or dogs, but maybe other accommodation types allow them. We've rented through an agent from somebody who has a number of properties, but I think you maybe have more chance going directly through a private landlord.
No, we've never been to Malta. This weekend just gone was our first time. We haven't been planning for long. It probably sounds rushed, but when you've already done it once in another country it's not so scary. I've done lots of reading and lots of phone call making over the last month or so after first having the idea to move in the middle of November after coming home from a holiday (not Malta). I had done a bit of research about two years before that though and decided the time wasn't right. We used to live in Montpellier nearer the Languedoc coast line, but we moved more inland towards Toulouse two years ago and we hate it here. I just can't stay here any longer because it's not what we want. We only rent in France, so we're not tied to anywhere. We were going to move towards Nice and St Tropez, but to be honest we've had our time in France and just want a change. Malta sounded absolutely perfect for us, so we thought we'd give it a try because we were planning on moving to a totally new area within France anyway.
Thanks Faye.
Yes I can understand being somewhere you don't like the area we are in is starting to change quite rapidly really scares me thought of twins growing up around here as the kids are getting more out of control.
Hope we can find somewhere for our dog as she's like my baby and wouldn't leave her behind.
Thank you for all your info it Is all very helpful we wouldn't be looking at moving yet as twins have got holiday in school and sats exams to do in May. We would probably do what you fine and go put for the weekend.
Do you know if you have to have loads of money behind you to show you can support yourself as read somewhere couples have to have £23,000 and extra for each dependant.
Thanks Faye.
fayeb wrote:Hi Sam
Do you know if you have to have loads of money behind you to show you can support yourself as read somewhere couples have to have £23,000 and extra for each dependant.
Thanks Faye.
I'm not sure about a lump sum because we have a regular income and will be applying for residency as being self employed. Hopefully somebody else should be able to help you with that, but I've read loads of times on this forum about people going over with very little before finding a job, so I don't think that's the case, at least for someone coming from another European country.
Obviously if you don't have an income it's wise to have a bit in savings while you look for a job, but I don't know what, if anything, you need to have to be able to apply for residency.
To prove self sufficiency an income is just as acceptable as a lump sum.
Single. Weekly income of € 92.32. OR a minimum capital of € 14,000
Married. Weekly income of € 108.63 OR a minimum of € 23,300
Dependants. An extra € 8.15 is required per any added dependent.
Thanks
The nearest school for the 4 year old would also be Pembroke Primary my youngest goes there.
Hope your move goes well!
Kelly
fayeb wrote:Hi
We are a family of four in the uk looking at moving over to malta. Can I just ask you did you go and have a look round at the weekend and if so how did you get on. We are also little unsure were to live and are focusing on area close to good school as we have 11 year old twins who will be going high school but really if possible don't want them in separated schools I have noticed a lot of schools are boy and girl only.
Any advice tips will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Hi Fayeb, if they are 11 they will be in form 1 or 2 depending on their year of birth ( my daughter is born nov 2003 she is in form 1) Pembroke secondary is in the Swieqi / sliema / St Julian's / Gzira catchment area it currently has forms 1 and 2 as co-ed as this was the pilot school last year for mixed classes, all other state secondary schools in Malta now have form 1 as co-ed, they brought co- education in this September across all state schools in Malta for form 1 so eventually in another 4 years all years will be mixed sex classes
Thank you for that information my twins were born October 2003 so same age as your daughter. That's good they are starting to mix them they have been in same class for seven years and even though for last three years don't bother do much in school together they are very close and bit unsure what impact on top of a big move it would have on them being split up.
Do you have to pay for this school and if so how much roughly.
Thank you for your help much appreciated.
Faye.
Izzybenjaz wrote:Sorry I've just realised I've probably given you some duff info, if your son turns 16 in 2016 he can go to sliema boys, as I don't think they have 4th year boys at Pembroke ( don't take my word for it!) can ask my daughter though she will know! if he is 16 this year before end December you will probably have to put him back a year anyway as the 5th formers finish school at the beginning of April and take their o levels straight after, the o levels had to be booked and paid for end of last year. My son started at the end of September and has had to try and cram 3 years worth of work and coursework into a few months, along with learning Maltese as he's the only British person in his school so the kids tend to mostly speak in Maltese, he can only take a certain number of o levels as he's not fluent in Maltese and some classes are only taught in the Maltese language, it's been tough but he's on target to do well......plus he's guranteed to pass his English and Spanish! If you need any info at all just get in touch x
Thank you so much! It's lovely to hear from somebody in a very similar situation. We definitely plan to put him back a year, plus we hopefully want to pay for some private tuition over the summer so that he can catch up a bit. He turns 16 in October and we assumed he'd be going to Sliema boys with living in Swieqi? Is that where your son goes? We did look at private, but with him only having a French education I thought it'd be a waste of money because he'd be so far behind that we'd have to pay for extra tuition anyway.
I've not even thought about my daughter yet, so thanks for that. She hasn't started any schooling in France yet and doesn't speak any French, so I'm fine with her going into a school speaking only Maltese. How old is your youngest and how are they getting on?
fayeb wrote:Hi izzybenjaz
Thank you for that information my twins were born October 2003 so same age as your daughter. That's good they are starting to mix them they have been in same class for seven years and even though for last three years don't bother do much in school together they are very close and bit unsure what impact on top of a big move it would have on them being split up.
Do you have to pay for this school and if so how much roughly.
Thank you for your help much appreciated.
Faye.
Hi Faye,
No you don't pay for state school, you also get a free school bus service, you have to pay for uniform and stationary etc.
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