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TheRealismail wrote:

.... Cynic
Is it possible to find more details on this subject?

Almost certainly, it only takes a bit of Google skills, but I'm not advocating people do this and certainly not publishing anything on here to help people do it.  As I said, if I see it on here, I will remove it.

It really isn't hard to get to Holland via the legal routes.  I understand that people are desperate to achieve the "better life", but going the black route (as the Dutch call it), isn't the way, it often leads to things being much worse than how they were back home.

Cynic
Expat Team

TheRealismail wrote:

I was asking about your references on the illegal immigration

You mean how I know all those things happen?  My answer remains the same - a bit of Google skills and there is a world of information out there.

However, to elaborate, it's because unless you're an EU citizen, or for non-EU citizens, you have the stamp from IND in your passport, you can't register for your BSN number and without BSN, you can't get all those things.  All the relevant information is on the IND website, which you can access in English and Dutch, by following this .

TheRealismail wrote:

We sure do appreciate your Google skills 😉

Plus I've lived in many countries around the world (sometimes working directly with the immigration regulators of these countries) and had to go through the same regulatory hassle that our members do, so I kind of know the keywords I'm looking for.