Visa after divorce

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5 years ago

Hello,

So after visiting Brazil for 2 years frequently I have decided to get settled.

Situation: I am an Indian and I arrived in May 2017 and got married with Brazilian woman in July and got divorced this year in May 2020. My RNE is valid until 2026 and it says Permanent. So when can I get permanent residency here or atleast stay without worrying about my visa. Since I got this permanent RNE as I was married but since now I am not and I am working at Senado as tercerizado. How can I obtain proper visa so I can visit聽 visit my own country and family and also other country and come back again. As far as I know, I can live here legally until 2026 and if I go outside the country I can not get in since the visa will not be valid since I am divorced.

So how to solve situation or someone can guide me on how to get visa or change visa so that I do not have issue for getting back to the country. I do have cartao de trabalho and everything needed. what are other documents required and how to apply for it as per my situation.

I hope I can get some answers and if anything else is required do let me know.

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abthree Brazil Expert

6447POSTS

5 years ago

First, some terminology.聽 You have a CIE (predecessor of the CRNM that is honored as the same thing) that says "Permanente" and is valid until 2026, so you already have permanent residency.聽 You don't have to worry about anything until you go to renew in 2026, and probably not even then.聽 You will have to renew periodically until you reach 60 years of age, when your expiration date will be reclassified as "Indeterminada".聽 Unless your ex went to the Pol铆cia Federal and asked them to start a process to revoke your residency, you don't have a problem:聽 the PF won't ordinarily do it unilaterally, and if they did start a process, they would have informed you, certainly the last time you reported your change of address.

A visa is permission issued to a person outside Brazil only to present themselves at a port of entry to request admission to the country.聽 Once Passport Control has let you through at the airport, your visa has served its purpose and is no longer relevant.聽 As a legal permanent resident, you should not require a visa to re-enter Brazil if you go abroad, your CIE should be sufficient.聽 During the first year or so after the immigration law reform of 2017, the airlines were confused and sometimes were requesting visas in addition to CIEs/CRNMs.聽 This should have been resolved by now, and it's doubtful that you'll have a problem.聽 Just in case, plan to arrive at the airport early for your return flight, and a few phone calls by the gate agent should resolve any lingering confusion.

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Badol919 Active member

59POSTS

5 years ago

CIE is another I'd card ? I got just CRNM . I don't have nothing more. I want to know about this?

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philmoto85 Active member

87POSTS

5 years ago

The CRMN replaced the CIE. You don鈥檛 need anything else

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saurabhshah Member

11POSTS

5 years ago

@abthree & @philmoto85
So to understand right, I need to get CIE or CRMN to replace the RNE and that should do for me ?
Yes my ex have no issues me staying here or my residency. So even though I got divorced they have nothing to do or open process for me to revoke my visa/residency?

And are these correct pages to obtain?

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rraypo Serial expat

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5 years ago

The CIE is only a card, just a wallet-type photo ID card that has your RNE number on it. Since 2017, the so-called called CRNM process has replaced your previous RNE process.聽 I do not believe anything you have needs to be changed until you have to renew.

Example of CIE:聽聽

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abthree Brazil Expert

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5 years ago

saurabhshah wrote:
@abthree & @philmoto85
So to understand right, I need to get CIE or CRMN to replace the RNE and that should do for me ?
Yes my ex have no issues me staying here or my residency. So even though I got divorced they have nothing to do or open process for me to revoke my visa/residency?

And are these correct pages to obtain?

No, you already have everything you need.

The official name of your ID card is the "C茅dula de Identidade de Estrangeiro" -- CIE.聽 It says that right under the words "Rep煤blica Federativa do Brasil" at the top of the card.聽 This was frequently, but erroneously, referred to by expats as "RNE", which was the acronym for the National Foreigners' Registry.

With the new immigration law, the CIE was replaced going forward by the CRNM, the "Carteira do Registro Nacional Migrat贸rio".聽 However, the CIEs issue prior to November 2017 were not canceled, and continue to be valid equivalents to the CRNM.聽 Your card is valid until it expires; when you renew it in 2026, you'll probably be issued a new CRNM.

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rraypo Serial expat

776POSTS

5 years ago

A great article for you to read on cards and expiration dates:

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saurabhshah Member

11POSTS

5 years ago

Thank you guys! This is such a relief! Since I want to visit my family and this is really helpful. Appreciated!

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Badol919 Active member

59POSTS

5 years ago

#10

New CRNM card has no word about permanent. So residency. 10 years validity.聽 Residency term indeterminado but have validity date till 2028.

Can you explain little about this matter?

rraypo Serial expat

776POSTS

5 years ago

#11

Yes, the old RNE and now CRNM does expire, for most people. The RNE had a maximum age after which, no renewal was required聽 Yes, it will need to be renewed.聽 I am not certain about any maximum age for CRNM.聽 Start here to learn about the process:

Badol919 Active member

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5 years ago

#12

thanks for replying. But my CRNM is permanent residency or not because it鈥檚 not any word "permanent"
In card of CRNM.

abthree Brazil Expert

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5 years ago

#13

Badol919 wrote:
thanks for replying. But my CRNM is permanent residency or not because it鈥檚 not any word "permanent"
In card of CRNM.

The old CIE (orange card) had the information on the front.聽 If you have the post-2017 CRNM (blue card), look on the back.聽 If it says "Residente" for "Classifica莽茫o", it should amount to the same thing.

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