Dating - How do you date?
MY rule is that she can NOT date until she is twenty-five (25) years old.
I know all about the lying, lazy, dopeheads looking for a "sucker" woman to pay the bills.聽 I want my daughter to have the maturity to know when a "lazy slob" is just using her and for her to have the strength to kick the dopehead out immediately and NOT listen to his stupid lies!!!!!
Have a great day.
NOTED:聽 "I learned not to date a man who doesn't know how to court a woman and make her feel special... I was too blind to see that when I first dated him..."
Yes.聽 We are all human and make mistakes.聽 However, making a mistake which was avoidable is NOT smart.聽 Parents are responsible to love, teach and support their children.聽
You made the mistake.聽 Now I want my daughter to avoid the mistake and the tremendous pain you endured.
Of course my daughter is a teeenager.聽 She always tells me how smart she is and she can always give a response in less than two seconds to any question, comment, etc. I have if she "WANTS TO".聽 聽YES, I have learned more from her than she has learned from me about love, family, communication, etc.
However, the reality is, "SHE IS A TEENAGER AND A TEENAGER WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT, WHEN THEY WANT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE PARENTS SAY".聽 If we do NOT like reality, then we can just get an attorney and sue GOD!!!聽 There are a lot of attorneys here in Brasil!聽 聽Some of them are very, very expensive and will promise you that they can win any lawsuit!!!
Thank God for letting us parents have children to bring love and happiness in this world!!!
Again, thank you for your honesty and wisdom!!!
Just sharing another perspective.
Macae wrote:I am so proud to have a very intelligent and beautiful seventeen year-old daughter.聽 SHe is a present from GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MY rule is that she can NOT date until she is twenty-five (25) years old.
25??
She is an adult and you have no legal standing to say what she does at that age.
You start controlling her like that, it will only it will come back and haunt you.
I will try to get the courage to discuss your points directly with her.聽 Of course, I know who will win the 鈥渄iscussion鈥 BEFORE I even start, as my daughter is definitely smarter than me.聽 聽Thanks GOD for that!!!!
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ajadams聽 NOTED and lessons learned: 鈥淢y ex fianc茅e left me for a jobless dude and neither me nor family could believe it. I used to so proud thinking I got the money and I meeting up her basic needs but that day she left me, here is what she said to me I quote "honey my parents have money and so do I, I need man that will listing even to my foolishness not business as usual"鈥.
Your ex fianc茅e did you a HUGE favor.聽 Women want different things than men want.聽 Did you learn your lesson?聽 Probably like most men, you think with your penis and then only about your money.聽 聽The lady you were dating was just a trophy to show off to your men friends or to try to impress your parents.聽 If you do not like that men and women think differently, again please go hire a BRAZILIAN lawyer and sue GOD, but PLEASE stop your whining and bellyaching because it is very depressing!聽 Your ex fianc茅e did you a favor BEFORE the marriage.聽 聽It is a very good thing you did NOT get married as you would have ended up divorced.聽 When you get a divorce here in Brasil, as a man you will go through a living hell.聽 It is too bad that my dear friend James Woodward is not here to hit you over the head with a baseball bat and knock some sense in you!!!聽 Grow up and move on.
Otherwise have a great day and enjoy the wonderful country of Brasil where the GOOOOOOOOOD is much more than the BAD!!!
John from Macae
Please do not worry about me controlling my daughter.聽 She was born in Houston, Texas and I remember this on a daily basis.聽 Her nickname when she was crawling on the floor was 鈥淏ulldozer鈥, as she went where and when she wanted to go.聽 She has the DNA of her Dad.聽 聽When she was introduced to our friends, it was stated many, many times that 鈥淒o NOT need to do a DNA test as we know who is the dad.鈥澛 I have been told that I am 鈥渢eimoso鈥.聽 She has ALL of my DNA in this area but the personality of the sweetness person on earth.聽 I LOVE her dearly!!!!
Have a GREAT day as I need to get back to work now!!
John from Macae
You have written a most enjoyable item for me to enjoy during my coffee break!!!聽 Thank you.
I was born the 5th of thirteen (13) children.聽 My old man, JW, loved every one of them.聽 When he with age and living in the nursing home, he was always so proud to talk about them. When living there by himself (mom had already died), I never heard him say a bad word about any child of his despite ALL of the issues.聽
My oldest brother, Jimmy, when he was sixteen years old took the car out by himself and died in a car wreck.聽 JW was working on the US Postal train sorting mail and came home from Charlotte NC.聽 He saw a car that looked his.聽 He found his oldest son was dead.聽 聽I think JW never forgot a single day for the rest of his life his son Jimmy despite all of the issues of 鈥渢eenagers鈥 growing up.聽 I have been told, that there is no pain like that of a parent when one of their children die.
JW told me once, 鈥淓very child is different鈥.聽 I guess this is what GOD wanted to give to parents, a challenge for making love/having sex/getting hooked up, etc., etc.
Enjoy your day and THANK YOU for sharing your wisdom and kindness!!!
John from Macae
but that's the way it happens.However, there was a very interesting situation from my teenage years, when I was dating one special girl. Following the pattern I was always paying the bills and not letting her do it. BUT on our 4-5 th date when I was just about to pay and she asked to do it, I refused again. Then she said:
"Lisen, if you don't let me pay this bill, then you don't call me anymore!"
From that moment on we never argued about bills any more. If one was paid by me, the other was paid by her. Case closed.
So whatever perceptions are, whoever calims he is the BOSS, this does neither excuse nor relieve the other party from being independent, equal and responsible.
Nothing wrong with some old fashioned values.
Steve. (a UK Dinosaur!)
Could you PLEASE tell me where I can buy this "rulebook"?聽 This "rulebook" sounds very interesting and informative.聽
Thank you for your wisdom or passing on the info about this "rulebook".
I am sure if James Woodward was here he could tell me where to buy this wonderful "rulebook".聽 God bless James!!!
Have a GREAT day!!!
NOTED:聽 鈥淚n my country normally the man is the person who pays the bill. Call it old fashioned, call it machism ...if you like even call it rasism聽 聽but that's the way it happens.
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So whatever perceptions are, whoever claims he is the BOSS, this does neither excuse nor relieve the other party from being independent, equal and responsible.鈥
WOW!!!聽 聽I did not know going out on a date was about claiming to be the 鈥淏OSS鈥.聽 It is good to learn something everyday.
Thank you for informing me and letting me learn something new.聽 Most appreciated!!!!
Oh.聽 Yes, James Woodward, we need to discuss this in more detail as I must have missed your Lesson 101 on dating.聽 James, it would be really appreciated if we could do a Skype video so I could learn about going out on a date and being the 鈥淏OSS鈥.聽 I reckon I will just have to do a Skype video with Paul in Indonesia and let him fill me in since James, you are NOT doing your job!!!!
Have a GREAT day!!!
Have a Happy Easter and thank you for sharing your stimulating thoughts.
I was just skimming by and had to stop to respond to your post. Put in a bit of balance as it were.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that generally women will think a man who complements them is a stalker.聽 Not actually true ya know. I suspect it depends on the guy, what he did, or said and then the woman.
I encountered that situation not long ago and I did not call him a stalker until it was pretty obvious he was. He was nice enough , we had coffee, and chatted. There were already some warning bells. He didn't like my choice of coffee places. Yet we met again at his choice of coffee place, and the effort to control me began. I didn't, he said shop at the right stores, he was visibly angry that I became a permanent resident, because he had just started the process after being a temp for 4 years.
I told him I would be unavailable for awhile, He found out where I was living ( wasn't hard my coffee shop is in my neighborhood, so he knew聽 what street I lived on) and he showed up at my house, he called numerous times. I refused to open the door, and told him that I just wasn't what he was looking for, after he emailed that he had arranged that we have dinner at 8 pm with some snowbirds he had met. It was at a restaurant I never heard of.聽 That's stalking.
One bitter lesson that I learned (as a male parenting figure), many years ago, was that even in the best of father-daughter relationships, any attempt to dogmatically control the "multiple-infatuations" phases of a teen-age girl's dramatic life, ultimately "evolves" to become a frustrating effort in total futility,.,.....guaranteed!
We simply had the Norplant capsule injected; gave gentle, loving guidance "nudges" (whenever possible), then prayed for the best of possible college-preparatory outcomes.
Thankfully, with all "peer-pressure-influenced temptations" things considered, we managed to hit four (out of four) home runs, to our astonishment

ARB360 wrote:One bitter lesson that I learned (as a male parenting figure), many years ago, was that even in the best of father-daughter relationships, any attempt to dogmatically control
I won't be doing that, but I will be buying a shotgun.
I know what I'm like so I know what other lecherous buggers will be after.
kristiann wrote:In my country normally the man is the person who pays the bill. Call it old fashioned, call it machism ...if you like even call it rasism
but that's the way it happens.
However, there was a very interesting situation from my teenage years, when I was dating one special girl. Following the pattern I was always paying the bills and not letting her do it. BUT on our 4-5 th date when I was just about to pay and she asked to do it, I refused again. Then she said:
"Lisen, if you don't let me pay this bill, then you don't call me anymore!"
From that moment on we never argued about bills any more. If one was paid by me, the other was paid by her. Case closed.
So whatever perceptions are, whoever calims he is the BOSS, this does neither excuse nor relieve the other party from being independent, equal and responsible.
Amen to that, sir! 
PLEASE make sure it is an automatic and that you have two extra cases of shells.聽 From what I聽 know, the young teenage boys are persistent and quite dangerous.聽 When I went hunting Texas one time, I heard the rattle of a rattle snake.聽 I did not wait to look him in the eyes and ask if he was friendly or not, as my stomach was in my mouth and my hands were shaking tremendously.聽 As such, I shot that gun until I stopped shaking.聽 I then ran to get the hell out of there.聽 (A true story.)
Have a great day and聽 a Happy Easter.
John
I told him I would be unavailable for awhile, He found out where I was living ( wasn't hard my coffee shop is in my neighborhood, so he knew聽 what street I lived on) and he showed up at my house, he called numerous times. I refused to open the door, and told him that I just wasn't what he was looking for, after he emailed that he had arranged that we have dinner at 8 pm with some snowbirds he had met. It was at a restaurant I never heard of.聽 That's stalking.鈥
Your suffering is NOT unique.聽 聽I SUGGEST that PLEASE, the next time, IMMEDIATELY call the cops, file a report, ask for restraining order.聽 I do NOT want my daughter to ever have to endure this repeated type of abuse!!!!!聽 Give the police his full name, phone number, email, description, etc.聽 THOUSANDS OF WOMEN have been suckered in and raped or murdered when it could have been prevented.聽 IT does NOT matter that at onetime , you聽 had fun together, etc.聽 聽You can NOT judge a book by its cover.聽 Things change or you find out the real person is a jerk or worse.聽 聽IMMEDIATELY put his email on the spam list!!!!!聽 聽Block his phone number.聽 Put up a security cameras.聽 Give a picture to your neighbors and tell your friends and family.聽 Put it in writing!!!!!聽 Prevention is much better than being stalked, raped or murdered.聽 If he ever knocks on your door call 911 and have your phone call recorded and have the cops to come and remove him.聽 Do NOT speak to him!!!聽 Let the cops talk to him, NOT you!!
聽 Your life is in danger!!!!!
Best wishes,
John
Macae wrote:travellight; NOTED:聽 鈥淚 encountered that situation not long ago and I did not call him a stalker until it was pretty obvious he was. He was nice enough , we had coffee, and chatted. There were already some warning bells. He didn't like my choice of coffee places. Yet we met again at his choice of coffee place, and the effort to control me began. I didn't, he said shop at the right stores, he was visibly angry that I became a permanent resident, because he had just started the process after being a temp for 4 years.
I told him I would be unavailable for awhile, He found out where I was living ( wasn't hard my coffee shop is in my neighborhood, so he knew聽 what street I lived on) and he showed up at my house, he called numerous times. I refused to open the door, and told him that I just wasn't what he was looking for, after he emailed that he had arranged that we have dinner at 8 pm with some snowbirds he had met. It was at a restaurant I never heard of.聽 That's stalking.鈥
Your suffering is NOT unique.聽 聽I SUGGEST that PLEASE, the next time, IMMEDIATELY call the cops, file a report, ask for restraining order.聽 I do NOT want my daughter to ever have to endure this repeated type of abuse!!!!!聽 Give the police his full name, phone number, email, description, etc.聽 THOUSANDS OF WOMEN have been suckered in and raped or murdered when it could have been prevented.聽 IT does NOT matter that at onetime , you聽 had fun together, etc.聽 聽You can NOT judge a book by its cover.聽 Things change or you find out the real person is a jerk or worse.聽 聽IMMEDIATELY put his email on the spam list!!!!!聽 聽Block his phone number.聽 Put up a security cameras.聽 Give a picture to your neighbors and tell your friends and family.聽 Put it in writing!!!!!聽 Prevention is much better than being stalked, raped or murdered.聽 If he ever knocks on your door call 911 and have your phone call recorded and have the cops to come and remove him.聽 Do NOT speak to him!!!聽 Let the cops talk to him, NOT you!!
聽 Your life is in danger!!!!!
Best wishes,
John
Put it in writing!!!!! - Indeed, via my (Officer of the Court) lawyer's filed restraining ordesr, and separately served @ the respective "work-place" locations of both that juvenile boy stalker's parents. Thus, apprising those parents of their son's actions; keeping them well-rooted in the "loop" of parental responsibility; hence making them (the parents) jointly culpable for their son's future actions.
Make the boy, and his parents more (keep their respectful distance) "paranoid" about us, instead.
And, also, I'd advise my daughter to politely smile (while courageously maintaining "direct" eye contact), whenever she's in the public presence of that same boy, and especially so, whenever he's together with his peerage. His peer-group pressure, alone, will bring a happy conclusion to that particular episode, for sure.
We been there, done that, and have the T-shirts to prove it,
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