Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
Apart from the terrible acting in Gone with the wind, this is a really handy phrase for life.
When I lived in the UK, I had a fancy TV, a hifi to kill for, and loads of other total crap, but I usually watched films on my portable DVD and listed to radio 4 on a portable radio.
My Sky TV contract came up for renewal but I never watched it so I scrapped it.
The TV licence reminder dropped through the letter box but I never watched broadcast TV - I cut the aerial coax and didn't pay.
No point having a TV you don't use so I sold it
The HiFi went next.
Then everything else I never used went the same way.
My minibus is 7 years old but does exactly what I need it to - Car adverts - middle finger
I don't give a rat's arse about owning property - Middle finger to real estate companies.
We spend our lives working and worrying about cash, but never give a thought to being happy. Apart from my lovely electronic toys, I simply stopped buying crap.
The result?
My bank gave me a fancy account that allows me into their special lounges where you get served coffee while I wait in the queue (in a very nice armchair with coffee table) and I can get really fussy about what work I do.
Stuff consumerism.
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I first retired at the age of 30, and I liked it so much that I did it again whenever employment became boring. Which it never was - I've always enjoyed my jobs - but I quit anyway. I told one boss that he couldn't afford me any more.
Being a good father - in my way - I coached my son to do the same sort of thing, and he has been even more sensibly irresponsible than I was. He and his pregnant girlfriend of the time lived for six months or so in a home-made (by the local Mayan Indians while he was away in Peru) treehouse in Guatemala with her two-year-old toddler, until they flew back to Norway for the birth of a new baby. I never did that. My wife and I once planned to retire to the caves of Crete and live with the hippies there, but we had a baby instead. Sigh... That sort of thing can really slow you down. Well, not *you*, probably, but it did us.
Here's a little piece about the treehouse, for your amusement:
So we ended up in a tiny Caribbean island, with three Norwegian grandchildren - one inherited, one doubtful but accepted, and one not disputed! What can you do, but go with the flow, eh?
I drive a 1997 Toyota Windom, by the way.
Fred wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ5ICXMC4xY
Apart from the terrible acting in Gone with the wind, this is a really handy phrase for life.
When I lived in the UK, I had a fancy TV, a hifi to kill for, and loads of other total crap, but I usually watched films on my portable DVD and listed to radio 4 on a portable radio.
My Sky TV contract came up for renewal but I never watched it so I scrapped it.
The TV licence reminder dropped through the letter box but I never watched broadcast TV - I cut the aerial coax and didn't pay.
No point having a TV you don't use so I sold it
The HiFi went next.
Then everything else I never used went the same way.
My minibus is 7 years old but does exactly what I need it to - Car adverts - middle finger
I don't give a rat's arse about owning property - Middle finger to real estate companies.
We spend our lives working and worrying about cash, but never give a thought to being happy. Apart from my lovely electronic toys, I simply stopped buying crap.
The result?
My bank gave me a fancy account that allows me into their special lounges where you get served coffee while I wait in the queue (in a very nice armchair with coffee table) and I can get really fussy about what work I do.
Stuff consumerism.
Opinions?
Yep.
I now realize it was a serendipitous blessing when I needed to sell my house because of mold problems and crushing debt related to all of the remediation it took to get "mi casa" mostly fixed.
I didn't have as much stuff as a lot of married couples, but I had set up my three bedroom ranch home outside Nashville as a place to welcome friends and family and itinerant songwriters.
I started selling whatever I could at quick sale prices, then giving away and donating and throwing away a large portion of the rest of my belongings.
But when I moved into an extended stay motel, I still had a storage locker with enough stuff to fill a studio apartment.
That's when I stopped reacting to my negative circumstances and adopted a proactive attitude about my future.
It didn't take me long to realize that I could cover my number one concern regarding domestic help by moving out of the USA.
I then decided that sand and salt water were my other two necessities, which led me to the surprising discovery that a return to Vietnam might be my best option.
This led to downsizing to a car load of possessions.
About six months later I had given away even more things I'd previously thought to be essential.
When I finally boarded the plane to Vietnam, I had two large suitcases, a CPAP machine, a tote bag of medications and supplements and other diabetic healthcare related stuff, and a big backpack as my carry on in business class.
I had fortunately saved enough Delta airlines frequent flyer miles to have a free ticket from San Diego to Hanoi.
Fast forward a few months back after I had temporarily been in Mississippi, and I came West to San Diego and then Rosarito with just one large suitcase, the backpack, my CPAP machine and a much smaller tote for my healthcare supplies.
I am still hoping to return to Vietnam soon, or somewhere else in Southeast Asia.
Having learned what I've learned about stuff and the ability to buy what I need cheaply in Vietnam, I will probably be able to do without either the backpack or the big suitcase this next time, and the healthcare bag will probably not be much larger than an American football.
This concept has truly transformed the way I think about life and how I set priorities.
Better late than never...
When you no longer desire the stuff that the adverts tell you to buy, when you really understand that the most valuable things in life are your friends, and when you are earning your living doing something you love doing, then you will forget about the concept of retirement.
Expat42inVN wrote:Moving to a new country and living a life that evades consumerism is not necessarily the same as retiring.聽 Never let yourself believe that you will be happy doing nothing.
When you no longer desire the stuff that the adverts tell you to buy, when you really understand that the most valuable things in life are your friends, and when you are earning your living doing something you love doing, then you will forget about the concept of retirement.
I'd rather be living a life doing nothing than be a critic of those who are
James Valentine wrote:I hope not to offend anyone, but I don't believe it should be a decision to retire or to not. I believe the decision to make such a move should be more about the type of environment to continue your life.
I would quote back the title of this thread to you.
This thread was doing very well with people sharing their personal experiences.
Then along came those who apparently have no experiences to share but instead share opinions and philosophies about other people's lives.
大咖福利影院 members get to make a decision to retire any time they like.
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Not sheeping my way into buying a new car or super-size TV because some advert tells me to is very different to retiring.
I love working - I like the challenges and working out ways to operate others can't see.
Being a tight arsed Barnsley lad doesn't hurt. One project a few years ago involved visiting sites all over Indonesia - I turned an average per visit cost of 10 million Rupiah into a little under 1 million, but got more done, and in half the time. Pairing sites halved transport costs with zero impact to work completed - in fact I doubled the number of visits so got a lot more done.
I took the traditional way of thinking, tossed it in the bin, and started again.
As my non-consumerist expenses, even with 2 kids in private school and a nanny, came to less than half of my salary, my bank manager loved me.
The result - Sod all stress and the absolute freedom to work when I want.
People work like idiots in jobs they dislike because they have to pay for their house, new car, fancy TV, and all the useless crap they buy - The obvious answer is not buying all that crap.
As a bonus for the tree huggers out there, my carbon footprint is way lower that a consumerist's.
You take the UK's social and economic rule books, make paper aeroplanes out of them, then live.
bennl wrote:...All it changes as with everything in life is the 1st step! 鉁岎煆
"Came to believe that my life had become unmanageable; that I was powerless over _____________"
bennl wrote:All it takes as with everything in life is the 1st step! 鉁岎煆
He got mixed up twenty years ago with a Norwegian hippie girl and her toddler in Guatemala, and ended up in Norway, off and on. Of course that meant he had to learn Norwegian, but the best way to learn a foreign language is the pillow-talk method - I think we all know that. And the best way to "retire" anywhere is to be flexible. Get yourself a decent God, for a start...
I don't have any bras but I feel very liberated. So many people work 9 to 5 in jobs they hate just to buy the trappings that advertisers say we are failures if we don't have.
Stuff the lot - and that has a bonus.
Once you realise norms are a construct, you can think in completely different ways and examine everything else in your life.
It's amazing how much we do because we're supposed to as a social norm - not because we want to.
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