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So Lost wrote:

And wow, just received email with attachment from him, saying these are the Final divorce papers, its Final, but all in Egyptian Arabic....... now to find one to translate to me for piece of mind..........聽 聽

Its stange how things turn out..... I never imagined it all ended like this, feels like heart ripped out all over again.

Official documents are usually in Standard Arabic, not Egyptian Arabic

So Lost wrote:

Good day all- Question:

How is a divorce through the Ministry of Justice considered LEGAL and Final ?聽 I mean is it FINAL-LEGAL in USA?
As with a divorce in USA, couples must have a Judge sign it off the (Final Decree of Divorce) in Court .聽 聽But in Cairo, my (ex) did not have to appear infront of a Judge to divorce me- he says its final and legal in USA and Egypt.

If you both attend the signing it is legal, final and binding

If only he attends, it is legal and final ONLY AFTER IDDA and ONLY IF HE DOESN'T TAKE YOU BACK during Idda.

momodaime wrote:

what is idda?

A Muslim man's ex-wife cannot remarry during Idda (which is called a waiting period).

Idda is three menstrual cycles for women who still menstruate

Four months if a woman is not menstruating

and if a woman is pregnant, Idda is until she delivers her baby.

jazzee wrote:

I have been reading with interest as I was once married also to Egyptian man.We married in the main office in Cairo and we also divorced there.I had a irrevocable divorce if memory serves me right.I am about to be married in the Roman Catholic Church for the first time and my priest needs a copy of my divorce because they need to file to have this marriage annulled before I can marry in the church.The problem I have is with all my traveling around I have lost my original documents. Can I contact anywhere in Egypt or UK to have replacements issuded???

You need to go yourself to Egypt, or ask your ex-husband to do it for you. Only either of you can do it.

The Egyptian wrote:

jazzee wrote:

I have been reading with interest as I was once married also to Egyptian man.We married in the main office in Cairo and we also divorced there.I had a irrevocable divorce if memory serves me right.I am about to be married in the Roman Catholic Church for the first time and my priest needs a copy of my divorce because they need to file to have this marriage annulled before I can marry in the church.The problem I have is with all my traveling around I have lost my original documents. Can I contact anywhere in Egypt or UK to have replacements issuded???

You need to go yourself to Egypt, or ask your ex-husband to do it for you. Only either of you can do it.

or someone authorized by power of attorney as well

basicus wrote:

Contact a lawyer in Cairo that can help you with this. He will need a power of attorney from you that will have to get stamped by the Egyptian Embassy where you live. That power of attorney will probably also need a stamp from your embassy in Egypt. The Egyptian part can be done by the lawyer as far as I know.

Doesn't have to be a lawyer. Any person she trusts in Egypt with power of attorney can get her the document.

basicus wrote:

I suggested lawyer as an alternative if she does not know anyone she wants to use for this.

I know. I just wanted to highlight it could be any trustworthy person to save her the arm and the leg the lawyer might charge her for a minimal amount of work.


Also a good piece of information about power of attorney in Egypt is that it can be made as "specific" or "general". You can specify the authorities/bodies/entities he/she is authorized to deal with, you can even narrow it down to a specific task (e.g.: getting a certified copy of divorce record from Ministry of Justice) .....

This is good as it guarantees that it won't be abused

aussie33 wrote:

Hi

I need, or think I need a lawyer for a divorce. Was married to an Egyptian in Egypt and things are not going well. He keeps insisting I ask him for a divorce otherwise won't speak to me.
Any suggestions (We are separated, he's in Saudi and I'm back home in Perth)

then ask him for it ! I do not see where is the issue

aussie33 wrote:

Not knowing my rights would be the issue!

Why should I loose my rights when he is the one at fault?

Fine, you do have rights, but it depends on so many factors, as in for how long you have been married? how much deferred dowry was mentioned in the contract, and if you have children or not.

heriane wrote:

I need help with my divorce.
I have been married 11 years and he left me 6 months ago and went to Egypt. I was pleased as he was verbally and physically abusive. He left me in debt of his making and I had to move out the rented home and am now in lodgings and have no job.
He is living in my flat in Cairo bought with my money from my first marriage and for which I worked very hard. I lived tehre with him a while.
I have an English lawyer doing the divorce but she can't deal with the financial side as it is out of jurisdiction.
Does anyone know any good Arabic lawyers in Egypt who can help me get my money back etc? And get him to move out the flat.
Any help appreciated.

The question that will determine whether the case is feasible or not : is the property in Egypt in your name or not? Do you have the original/true copy of title deeds or not?

If it is in his name, I am so sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but don't bother with lawyers ...... Even if a lawyer tells you otherwise, he'd be just looking into siphoning money off you.


once more, I am so sorry .... It makes me really ashamed that so many of my countrymen are scamming foreign women under false pretences of love .......

heriane wrote:

Hello,
The deeds are in both our names even though it's my money that bought the flat. I only found this out recently.
So how do I go about getting the flat sold and the money sent to me?
Do you know any lawyers in Cairo?

Both your names equally (50-50 shares) or differently?

Yes I do know a few lawyers in Cairo, but that is going to be a long, protracted lawsuit

The fact that it was your money is irrelevant in Egyptian law

heriane wrote:

Should I sort it using English law then?

It's out of jurisdiction. English courts have no jurisdiction or sovereignty over Egyptian property ownership or property contracts drawn in Egypt.

pentheo wrote:

hi i am an EU citizen and i had got married to my Egyptian coptic husband in the office of the External affairs in cairo. we have decided to divorce. could you please tell me what is the exact process and what papers do we need and how much time does it take?

What is ur religion?

pentheo wrote:

orthodox

Unfortunately you can never get a divorce in Egypt