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JOBY01 wrote:

Hi, thank you XB23 it would be a fianc茅 visa. The problem I have is the marriage being recognised in Morocco and also being able to have a ceremony there too. JOBY聽

Laws continuously change. If memory serves me right, there was a time when Moroccan marriages where automatically recognized in the UK. Now I don't believe that's the case (according to posts I've read online). So I think if possible, ask him to check with the Adoul's Office/Family Court, or wherever marriages are registered in Morocco, whether UK marriages are currently recognized in Morocco. The point is that someone here may say it's recognized, unbeknownst to them that things have since changed from the time of their marriage or whatever. Thus it's important to actually get the answer from Morocco, or the Moroccan consulate here, just to be on the safe side. Or consult an up to date Moudawana (Moroccan Family Code) if you're able to, or a Lawyer if need be. You don't want to find out later that they no longer recognize them! Anyway, here is what I read on the Moudawana (I don't know if it's the same for mixed marriages):

Moudawana wrote:

Article 14
Moroccans living abroad may conclude their marriage according to the local administrative procedures of their country of residence, provided that the conditions of consent, capacity, and the marital tutor if required are all fulfilled, and that there are no legal impediments to the marriage nor cancellation of the dowry; and this in the presence of two Muslim witnesses and subject to the provisions of Article 21 below.

As a token of our royal concern for our dear subjects residing abroad, marriage procedures are to be simplified for them: the marriage contract is to be drawn up in the presence of two Muslim witnesses and in accordance with the procedures in effect in the country of residence, and then registered with the proper Moroccan consular or judicial authorities, according to the Hadith: 'Seek ease, not hardship.'

So you may be able to get married in the UK, and then register the marriage in Morocco. As I said, best to make sure of this before you do anything.

I think your real problem is being able to obtain a Fiance visa. If you have managed to obtain one already, then that's great. Otherwise, like many others, you will have no option other than to go through the process in Morocco, then later on, apply for a Spouse Visa. I know you would rather avoid the hassle of getting married in Morocco, but so would of those who got married there. But they were forced to go, given how difficult it would be to obtain a Fiance visa.

JOBY01 wrote:

Hi XB23, I found that we can't have a vow renewal in Morocco, but we can in England! So his family would not see that part of the wedding. I'm trying to be fair to both families and obviously I want my family to witness us marrying..and I know he also wants his family to so it is difficult. He is going to ask some questions and find out what our options are.
We have not applied for a fianc茅 visa yet as we do not know what we want to do. I am there in April for a month and then again for the summer. The fianc茅e visa shouldn't be too difficult as I meet all the criteria and he will not need anything from the state as he will live in my house.
Thank you for your help.

Well hopefully the more knowledge you gain regarding this matter, the easier it will become to make a final decision about what to do, as it may limit your options, and solve the little dilemma you have here.

To be honest, my comments about the Fiance visa isn't related to whether you satisfy all the requirements or not (obviously you do, as you intend to live here with him). But rather based on the fact I've seen a lot of threads, and I've questioned, why don't they just bring their partner over and get married so easily & so quickly, instead of waiting for answers regarding what papers to prepare and take to Morocco, stay there for a little while and get married. They said they wouldn't be able to get a Fiance visa. So I'm assuming there is some difficulty in obtaining it, as most tend to fly to Morocco, get married. Come back, apply for Spouse Visa, and a number of months later, their partner arrives. There must be something about Fiance visa's, because I don't think most people get married in Morocco out of choice, but because they don't have an option to bring their partner over to get married. I could be wrong.

Paulabell wrote:

I am currently in the same position 3 marriage visas refused the last one just this week, I was a sponsor, I聽 earn enough, declared he would live with me not claim from the state, to prove wedding plans booked wedding venue, bought plane tickets back to Morocco even had my MP write a letter of support only to be crushed again with another refusal, we are devastated and feel hopeless at the moment, sorry to be negative I'm an eternal optimist, but I am beginning to wonder if it can ever happen ! What's the issue with Morocco and U.K. if anyone has any help I appreciate it and I wish you good luck if you get anywhere please pass It on 馃槩

Unfortunately a large number of the marriage-based immigration applications (from certain countries) it receives are fraudulent/not genuine marriage 鈥� that they鈥檙e just a means for the would-be immigrant to obtain U.K. residence. The application will be carefully scrutinized, and can be rejected for many reasons. Such as whether there is a shared language or not. Difference in age, religion, social class background, educational background etc How they met, how quickly did they marry after meeting and so on. It's not simply about fulfilling the financial requirement/accommodation and whatever else there is to fulfill. If it was just that, then many people would be able to obtain a Spouse visa, considering the requirements are quite easy to meet for the average citizen.

I believe the government keeps track of which countries鈥� citizens commit visa or other immigration fraud at high rates. So the application faces extra scrutiny, due to the increased likelihood of it being fake if the spouse comes from a country with high immigration fraud. It's not your fault or his fault. But that's the reality. Like how the government comes up with new anti-terrorism laws based on the actions of a few nutters. That's just the way things are. People can ruin things for others by their actions.