I'm a moroccan girl marrying a British guy,
laduqesa wrote:By the way, the unemployment rate amongst engineers in general was 13% four years ago. It is worse now after the economic crisis:--
I really don't see you getting a job in the short term or even in the medium term that is of a level with your skills. In addition 50% of recent聽 UK graduates are in jobs that do not require a degree. The jobs just aren't there. Thirdly, I assume your degree is from a Moroccan university. I don't want to disparage your achievements and it sounds like you have achieved your results honestly, but it is well known in the West that some (many) degrees from the developing world have been obtained by fraud or cash. Therefore the equivalent degrees issued by Western unis are deemed to be of a higher standard.
Middle East/Gulf region is in need of Engineers and highly skilled professionals. I don't know why someone would want to look for work in England, when there are better opportunities and prospects elsewhere.
I want to keep聽 a self confidence but this聽 reality"" really makes me feel down聽
And I know it's very easy for me to give advice out - it's not my situation. I don't know how I would accept my own advice!
betysam wrote:Gio, your ex is a bit brave that she asked you these questions so that she could mak the things clear to you
Well, you are right about the differences between living with my in laws down here in Morocco or in the Uk, no way of comparing between the two,but at least I would say in case we live with my in laws, we ( my husband and I ) have a seperate bedroom,that is the only thing I can guarantee, I would not have a word concerning the decor of the house or the kitchen or else the food etc, that's聽 a big聽 issue ..I won't feel as a woman, it's like if they are going to adopt me nothing else..
Being with a strong personality , I think I'll be in a big trouble living with them unless if i'm trying to live with and for their choices..
I don't think it was bravely. As I don't think anyone wants to live with the in-laws, especially not in-laws with different language/culture/customs. Even though I & my ex, shared the same language and culture, still she wasn't happy to live with the in-laws. I can imagine it will be much worse for you, as you're not Pakistani. Having a separate bedroom means nothing. Houses in England are small, and bedrooms are very close to each other. Privacy will be very limited, even in your own room. I have a Moroccan friend, living in London, he went to Morocco & got married. And now moving out of the family home, even though the girl is Moroccan like them, and London rents are very high, but still he is leaving the family home, and moving into a place that he will share with her. He could of used the excuse that London rents are too high to save money, and that she is Moroccan and will easily settle in with them, but he didn't. I personally think having your own place is much more important than saving money on rent.
Ah, I see where you are coming from now. Please confine your religious prejudices to yourself. You think the woman won't get a job because she ought not to, her place is in the home. What arrant nonsense to spew to a well-educated and qualified Moroccan woman coming to the UK. I do think she will have trouble finding a job, yes, but that's because of the general economic situation.
As for the rest of your intolerant posts, I regret that they were made and am glad that someone who knows much more about Islam than I do was able to call you out on them.
I shan't be responding to you further.
He is Sunni exactely like me, thank u for bringing out this point
I have met him and his family , so thank u very much for being ready to meet him for me.
The truth of u being married to a Moroccan wife explains why did he want to marry me, or聽 may be we have different point of views, but i聽 deffinitly聽 respect urs, But our relationship is based on mind and on heart ,and h e is not divorced or older, he is exactel y the same age as mine.
I might agree about the truth that Pakistani are backwards,聽 ..well not completly
its really funny to see comments and advice from third parties that have no idea about her husband and what his intention are , it is very wrong to give an advice on this matter.
None of you had given even positive advice so far ...how about this small example???????????
what about if her husband wanted her to stay with his family for little while because he is trying to save a bit of money so they can stand on their feet or have good start in life or want to save money for deposit to buy a flat or ...or聽 trying to pay his debts or he is trying to earn better qualification to gain better employment or he has good plan for his wife to learn from his mum how to cook asian food or ....or ...i could list many positive reason here.
You need to know the circumstances of her husband as well before you give any advice ...and as her husband is not here on this forum then i see it absurd to make any judgement on here. we are hearing only one side of story.
Regarding your employment , that would depend on your skills and knowledge as you said , no one has right to say that will be dificul or easy , and everyone has his own luck , some have found a job from day one and others took them longer ...the most important is that you speak english and thats very positive step towards getting an employment unless like some foreigner who immigrated to uk and they did not speak a word of english and even though聽 i know many already that have job without speaking the language.
One last thing i would advice you is not to discuss your personal life on the forum , cuz you do now who you are getting an advice from specially you do not know them in person and they dont know your real circumstnces are so it will be invalid to take an advice.
also you may get an advice from wrong person who had failures in his journey life doing same experience as you and you dont wanna apply that to your life experience.
My only advice to you is have good intention of whatever you decide to do and inchallah you will be rewarded from allah.
SALAM
Any cultural tradition or religious differences should have being discussed before marriage already and not after you get married. so before the nikah you get to sit down with man you planning to get married to and inquiry any issues you may have with him or anything聽 that you wish to know聽 about him , his family , his personal life , his past life聽 etc....and once you are satisfied then you can make the move.
what i do not understand is why many people get themselves rushing into marriage with foreigner and later they start asking strangers about the differences that they may face with their spouces.
I beleive you should do your home work before the exam that is my opinion.
I apologise if i am being direct and stra8 forward.
I have no words to add, really, by u saying ur post here ,u were right In every single thing u have said
Thank u
I did all my homework, no worries, i'm/we are聽 aware of all the cultural barriers
thank u for ur advices
Interestingly enough, I lived with an Asian family when I was young (aged 10). This might sound odd, living with them, but we moved to Newcastle due to my father finding work there, and while we were looking for somewhere to stay permanently, we stayed briefly with a small Asian family (1 young girl & 1 older daughter), who had their spare rooms up for rent, and the location was convenient. They were from Pakistan, specifically. We didn't have a single problem with them. I really enjoyed it. Never once did I find a cause for concern. No fights, arguments, or that nonsense. We are not argumentative by our nature. We try to fit in anywhere we go, and things we don't like, we keep it to ourselves, for the sake of peace, and calm. However, during my several visits to Morocco, I've noticed that some tend to be quarrelsome, which may be a normal thing there, but it will be problematic if you have a strong personality and vocal about your feelings, when living under the same roof as them. As they expect things to run the same way, their way, and if you are expecting change or compromise, then that may spell trouble.
Do you have any information around what do you need to take with you to marry in Morocco? I'm a聽 British citizen and marrying a Moroccan so wondering what documents I need and also how long it takes to process? There seems to be lots of information online but unsure which is correct. I've tried calling the embassy in London and emailed but no response.
Your help would be most appreciated.
You will need...聽 Valid passport.
*聽 聽4 photos.
*聽 聽Birth certificate.
*聽 聽Certificate of conversion to Islam.
*聽 聽 Criminal records issued by the police in UK.
*聽 聽 Divorce certificate if you have been married before.
*聽 聽 Certificate of no impediment.
*聽 聽Proof of employment along with the last 3 months pay聽 聽slips.
*聽 聽Certificate of capacity from British Consulate in Morocco.
Criminal records from the Ministry of justice in Rabat
Medical Certificate issued by a doctor in Morocco .
It will probably take about 3 weeks if you are organised....first step is to have an appointment booked at British embassy before you fly out.聽 Then after the marriage there is the visa so check online about the requirements and current processing times
Thanks so much
- They need to speak English to a reasonable level. They have to sit an English exam at one of the test centres in Morocco. Information about that can be found on the British Council website. I seriously suggest that if you're sure the marriage will be going ahead and everything will be in place, then for her/you to book the English exam from now, as sometimes it takes time before there is an available date, and also it takes time for her to receive her results. You can not apply and send off the Spouse Visa until she passes the exam, so that's why I'm saying book it from early, so she can sit it and receive her results as soon as possible.
- I took a medical record from London. The one I got from Morocco, the so-called certificate was a joke, for want of a better word. I basically paid for the paper and got it in 5 minutes. Actually I was disappointed. I went out of my way to get a real medical paper from London, as I am totally against the idea of anything not 100% genuine. So instead of a doctor or someone appropriate checking the record I brought with me, or even me undergoing tests there, for which I'm more than happy to pay for, instead I was given a paper, signed, saying I have nothing of concern, after she asked me to pay for it. She got one too the same way.
Also what checks do they do at the doctors as in how do they check things like 'you haven't been messing'. I just hate needles so wanted to know so I can prepare myself.
If you're lucky, well in my case, I found it unlucky, the doctor in Morocco won't do anything, apart from give you a signed paper in 5 minutes, after paying him. I think this is a problem, as the husband or wife may have something, that without proper tests might be unknown to the other partner.
Mulchaleah1986 wrote:This is really useful thank you. Do you have contact details for the British embassy in Morocco? Do you know how much notice the place needs where we get married in Morocco to see the documents before we get married? I'm not converting to Muslim so does this make a difference?
Also what checks do they do at the doctors as in how do they check things like 'you haven't been messing'. I just hate needles so wanted to know so I can prepare myself.
- I went to the British embassy in Rabat, and booked an appointment via their website:
rabat.clickbook.net
I think there is a British embassy in Casablanca too. But anyway, I went to the one in Rabat.
- If you're not a Muslim, nor plan to become a Muslim, then marrying a Muslim Moroccan woman is not allowed. In general, marrying a Muslim woman isn't allowed, regardless of her nationality, if the man isn't Muslim. If you're both Christian and/or Jews, then that could be done, but slightly differently.
- The doctor won't do anything to you. Just throw him dirhams, he will throw you the paper.
Mulchaleah1986 wrote:Thank you. My fianc茅 is聽 Muslim and I am not. My family are Jewish so what would happen in this case? Thank you all for your help.
A Muslim man can marry a Christian or Jewish woman. But double-check with your fianc茅, and get him to check the marriage laws in Morocco just to be certain of what the laws are regarding mixed-faith marriages.
Thank you for your help
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