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Hello folks,
I applied for Vietnamese tourist visa 10 normal days ago!? but after 10 days it is still under the process!!!馃槕
Is that normal or no!?apparently bizarre!馃槕
What is your experience in this case!? - @giscivil92

Currently, It's almost impossible for an Iranian citizen to get a regular tourist visa approved.

You need to apply through a legitimate Visa agency and you may be able to get a 4-week limited Visa on arrival.

Sorry but I never understand this bilateral standards! and they never respond properly why!?

They are apparently refusing illegally by never responding! currently Iran is visa free for Vietnamese citizens!馃槒

And basically and聽 historically, we never had any issue or conflict with that country! when i go through the over 2000 year history by evidence!馃槕

It looks a new type of discrimination and racism! really fed-up馃槕

I was at VN embassy last week for legalization and spending much money except considerable time and its bureaucracy, but they never mentioned any restrictions to impose!

Hello folks,
I applied for Vietnamese tourist visa 10 normal days ago!? but after 10 days it is still under the process!!!馃槕

Sorry to hear that.

Is that normal or no!?apparently bizarre!馃槕

No, it is not the norm. In fact, reports are that VN Immigration has been quite consistent in approving tourist eVisa applications in their stated 3 day turnaround.

What is your experience in this case!? - @giscivil92

Tell us, please, the website you used to submit your application.

Have you received any requests from immigration to amend your application? If so, please let us know the wording used, and the number of times they requested additional information/amendments/corrections.

@Aidan in HCMC

After 3 days they just left a crazy comments on my personal photo %89 similarity shall be updated, and then I updated.

Now after 1 week they are still silent 馃珷!

During the last 3 weeks ago I've been to VN embassy over 3 times!

I've just spent much money for legalization additionally considerable time and expenses for ministries approval!

@Aidan

Is it possible to follow it up through the VN embassy in person?

It looks a new type of discrimination and racism! really fed-up馃槕
- @giscivil92

Reportedly (info from longtime visa agency contacts) the two main considerations are for citizens from countries experiencing political and/or economic distress.

Vietnam supports Iran in general and racism is not a factor in their decisions.

The government appears to be avoiding any tourists from anywhere in the world who are likely to turn into refugees once they arrive here and are unwilling or unable to exit the country at the end of their visa term.

I was at VN embassy last week for legalization and spending much money except considerable time and its bureaucracy, but they never mentioned any restrictions to impose! - @giscivil92

@Aidan
Is it possible to follow it up through the VN embassy in person? - @giscivil92

Unfortunately, no.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MOFA) doesn't get involved in the decision making process for standard tourist visas.

At best you will be referred to a Visa agency whose job it will be to submit a detailed application on your behalf, with the likely end result being the aforementioned visa on arrival, normally limited to a maximum of 4 weeks validity.

The main agency in Vietnam that is considered trustworthy by both MOFA and Immigration is:

vietnam-visaDOTcom

@OceanBeach92107

It doesn't make sense by evidence!

First of all, Vietnam originally never been as immigrant country so far! therefore a refugee preferably choose an immigrant countries such as Canada, Germany, England or other European countries which strongly support refugee and have transparent and clear laws in this case not Vietnam!

Second governments sometimes unfortunately make some mistakes!

Similarly in Cambodia, over 40% of GDP of this country obtained from scam and so on you probably know!

Cambodian government officially reported, so many nationalities(you may guess which nationalities I mean!馃槈 Please look a the following link) are involved in the scam especially in Asia, the majority of Asian countries except Iran and a other couple countries!

This fresh and latest report properly indicate that we shouldn't judge in advance based on initial or maybe unproven assumption!

Based on all these proven information I said, that behavior smells of discrimination or racism!

If you have any evidence to prove I will be pleased and sincerely appreciated to be informed.

Good luck Sir.馃槉

@OceanBeach92107

Anyway I just access the Vietnamese embassy to complaint! if聽 they are not supposed to give any services why they take money once they know my nationalities in advance馃槒馃槕! we didn't find cash on the road to donate for charity! yes!?

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@OceanBeach92107 It doesn't make sense by evidence!First of all, Vietnam originally never been as immigrant country so far! therefore a refugee preferably choose an immigrant countries such as Canada, Germany, England or other European countries which strongly support refugee and have transparent and clear laws in this case not Vietnam!Second governments sometimes unfortunately make some mistakes!Similarly in Cambodia, over 40% of GDP of this country obtained from scam and so on you probably know!Cambodian government officially reported, so many nationalities(you may guess which nationalities I mean!馃槈 Please look a the following link) are involved in the scam especially in Asia, the majority of Asian countries except Iran and a other couple countries!This fresh and latest report properly indicate that we shouldn't judge in advance based on initial or maybe unproven assumption!Based on all these proven information I said, that behavior smells of discrimination or racism!If you have any evidence to prove I will be pleased and sincerely appreciated to be informed.Good luck Sir.馃槉 - @giscivil92

What member OceanBeach92107聽 had posted is fact.

The reason I asked about whether you had received requests from immigration to amend your application is because we on the forum have seen this many, many times before. I can most assuredly state that the "enhanced scrutiny" your application is receiving is not due to your ethnicity. There were two Mediterranean nations whose citizens, until very recently, were finding it extremely difficult to receive eVisa approval. This issue has now been resolved, and members report no longer experiencing consecutive requests for ammendments/corrections. This is most certainly due to a shifting (improving?) political climate.

I had written on another thread...

'It is now apparent to us that citizens of some regions/countries, including but not limited to Africa (most notably Nigeria), Pakistan, Bangladesh, as well as others, are experiencing difficulty in receiving their eVisa approvals.

We will continue to try to help applicants from every country successfully complete their eVisa applications. However, continued denials/amendment-requests from immigration will suggest to us that the applicant has encountered an impediment to their receiving an eVisa approval. At that point our options/advice to the applicant will have been exhausted. Members are encouraged to continue with their own efforts to receive approval (time permitting), but the reality might be that it will result only in effort wasted.

It may well be in the best interest of people from these regions/countries to consider employing the services of a proven, reliable and trustworthy Vietnam visa agent. Please see posts #319 and #320, here, for a member's account of his experience in using such an agent.

If you'd like to pursue this avenue, please let us know.' (Link to post #485)

In the same thread...

'I called that agency today and spoke to one of the representatives there. She confirmed their unwillingness to submit applications on behalf of citizens of Pakistan, Bangladesh, most African nations, "some" nations in the Middle East (though she wouldn't identify which ones), "some" South America nations (again, without identifying which nations), and "others". I tried to get a comprehensive list of the countries where applicants are receiving enhanced scrutiny but she either wouldn't or couldn't give me this. I didn't feel comfortable pushing the matter. She did confirm with me the countries/regions I've mentioned.' (Link, continued, post #501)

From an Iranian compatriot of yours, please see post #665 in the same thread.

A VOA (visa-on-arrival) is an option, but it has a validity of less than 30 days. (Link to post #753)

I could have provided you with numerous other examples of foreign nationals experiencing the same issue which you are experiencing. Unfortunately, changes to the forum's "Activity/History" index makes it exceedingly difficult to search/find prior related posts. It took me, in fact, well over 30 minutes to compose this reply to you.

There are well over 700 posts in that specific thread. Feel free to browse through it, starting here.

You can skim over posts not specific to your issue. It won't take you long to understand the issue.

I kindly request that the Admin pin my post until we reach a reasonable solution, if possible, since thousands of people traveling to Vietnam now and in the future may encounter the same issue.

So many travelers spend significant time, money and effort and additionally they have to deal with unnecessary stress.

Finally, I believe that we are all human beings and deserve to be treated equally, regardless of our nationality.

It would聽 be sincerely appreciated in advance!

@OceanBeach92107 Anyway I just access the Vietnamese embassy to complaint! if they are not supposed to give any services why they take money once they know my nationalities in advance馃槒馃槕! we didn't find cash on the road to donate for charity! yes!? - @giscivil92

The embassy did not accept any monies from you. As stated by OceanBeach92107, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs plays no part in a tourist eVisa application. Don't waste any more of your time/energy visiting them.

Prior to your paying, you consented to the terms and conditions of your application, i.e. the payment is non-refundable.

Is that fair? No.

Is it something you must now deal with? Unfortunately, yes.

... thousands of people traveling to Vietnam now and in the future may encounter the same issue.

You didn't mention "..and in the past". 馃槈

So many travelers spend significant time, money and effort and additionally they have to deal with unnecessary stress.

Understood, and agree. And that, my friend, is precisely why expat.com exists. The friendly members here do their best to help fellow expats, tourists, travellers as best we can.

Finally, I believe that we are all human beings and deserve to be treated equally, regardless of our nationality.
It would be sincerely appreciated in advance! - @giscivil92

No argument here on those points.

When is your planned arrival date?

@Aidan in HCMC

Dear Aidan, I'm really sorry to take your time, and also appreciate it for your genuine guidance,

Could you please mention that visa agency here to contact, Please if聽 possible

To be honest I have a job offer from a Vietnamese employer but I'd like to obtain a tourist visa in advance if ir embassy avoid facilitating providing service to my attorney on behalf of me, I can travel there right away to address any potential issue.

I just applied for vietnam tourist visa only for assisting the employer in advance if they need.

@Aidan in HCMC

Yes for sure I agree with you

@Aidan in HCMC

As employer scheduled the timeline for me. I must be at work in august to begin the works.

but before that i require one month to resign from current company and assign my ongoing responsibilitis

@Aidan in HCMC
Dear Aidan, I'm really sorry to take your time, and also appreciate it for your genuine guidance,
Could you please mention that visa agency here to contact, Please if possible

See member OceabBeach92107's post, #8, above. They are a reliable agency who have earned the trust of numerous expat.com members. They have a helpline which you can call for advice or guidance.

To be honest I have a job offer from a Vietnamese employer but I'd like to obtain a tourist visa in advance if ir embassy avoid facilitating providing service to my attorney on behalf of me, I can travel there right away to address any potential issue.
I just applied for vietnam tourist visa only for assisting the employer in advance if they need. - @giscivil92

It's my understanding that if you enter Vietnam under a tourist visa, and are subsequently issued a work visa, you will have to leave Vietnam and reenter with the work visa in order to activate it. I might be wrong about this, as it has been years since I worked for an employer here. If I'm wrong, I'd be happy to be corrected.

Here's a thread you might be interested in reading. Change tourist visa to work visa in Vietnam

@giscivil92

Be careful. There are countless reports of people coming to VN with promises from the employer to secure for the foreigner a Work Visa. A promise which sometimes is not kept. Be wary of this. It is a real concern.

@Aidan in HCMC

Yes for sure dear Aidan馃挅, They seem to be trusted and reliable, after obtaining work visa i will resign to join them!

My purpose is help them to facilitate the workflow if they need to make sure.

I don't want they would be imposed unexpected effort!

@Aidan in HCMC

I try to agree with you but when we ask them about that discrimination or restrictions they unfortunately refuse to provide any evidence, they just say sorry, sorry... only this short answer or even lack of petition mechanism in contrast to European countries (progressive countries) and Canada! Right!?

They have to respond properly and cite to the relevant law! Right!? Otherwise, it may appear to be discrimination or unequal treatment.

I really apologize that for further argument, I'm just really really concerned and stressed when I see I have all the legal documents which approved by Vietnam, even though I encounter an unexpected issue.

I am simply asking for a reasonable and logical answer, which is my basic right as a human being.

Unfortunately if anything threaten Vietnam that's mostly related to neighboring nationalities and some populous nations (I'm sure you know what I mean馃槈). I have some documents to prove it but I'm not allowed to publish here!

Wishing you all the best!馃檹

I had unsubscribed from this thread, but because the OP reacted to one of my posts I'm drawn back in today.

So I'm going to be very, very blunt:

Now, as we piece together the breadcrumbs ,we see that someone who wants to work in Vietnam went to the Vietnamese embassy for purposes of having documents certified for work.

That's a process that is totally separate from immigration requirements for a tourist visa.

That's the best translation one can make from previous comments.

But then, for some bizarre yet common reason, since the employer is obviously not providing an invitation letter to receive a business visa on arrival, an application for a tourist visa was made separately.

We now have a situation that's absolutely common to those of us who have been monitoring these forms for the past few years:

Someone wanting to work in Vietnam or believing that they have a job waiting for them in Vietnam applies for a tourist visa, which requires them to say that the purpose of their visit to Vietnam is tourism.

So in this case,vthat would be a lie.

Then, if in fact the purpose of the visit was noted to be for employment, that would definitely raise a red flag with immigration, as it is definitely grounds to have a tourist visa application denied when the purpose of the visit is noted to be employment.

So it seems one of two things happened: A tourist visa was applied for illegally stating that it was for the purpose of tourism.

Or a tourist visa was applied for and the purpose of the visa was honestly said to be for employment, which is a huge red flag for immigration.

All of this especially being under heightened scrutiny for the reasons I mentioned before: current political unrest and economic uncertainty in the passport holder's country of record.

Further, this thread was started by someone who seemed to be asking for answers, but when the answers have been provided suddenly we find out that the creator of this thread is an absolute expert on immigration in Vietnam.

Many of us have been down this road before with people who start a thread appearing to sincerely want assistance and answers, but are then unwilling to accept The answers we provide.

I'm definitely going to avoid coming back to this threat again, largely because it's an absolute waste of time.

@OceanBeach92107

No gentleman you misunderstood, the reason is my country has no any embassy in Cambodia as I already mentioned 2 weeks ago!

As far as you know the criminal letter has been expired after 6 months!

For criminal issuance at embassy, they declared that you shall be in person to pick up!

Even though I already gave power of attorney to the employer, the embassy potentially (even %1) doesn't want cooperate! But I hope that they will cooperate and issue it without my presence!

My visa application is only for a crazy criminal letter, and universities degrees additional authentication by Ir embassy ! 馃槓

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@OceanBeach92107

You mentioned again that political issues caused this critical situation. If political issues are the reason, then that should apply to all parties involved鈥攏ot just one particular country, including yours.

What I'm saying is that ordinary people are not responsible for these broader political issues.

Please understand this.

@giscivil92

Removed comment:聽 Op has already been given insightful advice from Ocean Beach and Aiden - refuses to accept it, now we find he applied for a tourist visa to work in Vietnam - that is a lie on his application, and applied for the wrong Visa. I have unsubscribed from this post, he is beyond helping.

@PhuNinhTim

Hello Man

I've just received an email regarding the photo amendment, I need to modify it again!

The payment was successfully done!

If someone doesn't misjudges or involve political matters!

Thanks