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u can learn vietnamese, i can learn english, is it so difficult?

lylyly

sorry, maybe my note is so mistake, but i just chat with foreigner and he said that he get all 4 vietnamese teacher, and now he just use body language,? what is his problem? his problem is the same as my problem , i have learned english for long time and now i continue learning it, i use many way but i am not good english? why? it is really i have just explored my problem since 6 months? is the problem?  that is listening skill and we are lazy to practice it, my teacher is tha he help me understand it and now im trying to do it. i know that many foreigner also vietnamese who want to improve thier speaking skill, but they forget they just speak when they can listen to, and many people give up it,they dont listen to, just speak and speak, and as result as, they cant hear and when they speak noone can understand what they said espect their colleagua,

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ancientpathos

Not sure what you are talking about.  No body language...

hELLnoi

I hope you teach English better than you write here.
Second to no understand what saying you all about :(

laidbackfreak

The problem arises in that when you speak English the tone does not matter so much. Australians finish every sentence with a rising tone, in England we only do that when asking a question, but it does not change the meaning of the words.
In Vietnamese teh tones are often subtle differences and as such a single tone can change the complete meaning of a word. Reading\writing is far easier as the characters are easily identified, but when speaking the tones are so subtle and like every where else in the world regional accents have a part to play. I speak a little Viet but always with a Saigon accent, so when I venture north I am often even less understood.

It's a tough language to master even at an elementary level. English on the other hand is easier to get to a reasonable communication level in a short period of time.

khanh44

I know what she's talking about.

Some people having difficulty speaking but can understand and write alright like me. I can understand Vietnamese when someone is speaking it to me and read and write it but can't speak it in a way most can understand what I'm saying.

Same with my English. I can read, write and understand but despite 35 years living in Canada some can't understand my English as well.

What she's trying to say is her friend and people in general just want to learn to speak but neglect to learn all the other skills required in a conversation such as listening and understanding what people are saying.

So when 2 people that only master the speaking skills talk to each other they might as well talk to the wall.

lylyly

ya, great, u understand me, great, my name is yen and u?

Tito12

A lot of people try to learn Vietnamese and they give up because it is a tonal language and for some this is a barrier they simply can't go over. If you say (English) Car,cAr,caaar,caRRR etc people might understand you especially if the word is in context. But say a Vietnamese word in wrong tone and they will look at you like you have fallen from they sky,even if you are standing there trying to other simple bread. So they just use body language,point to what they want and that's it..

khanh44

lylyly wrote:

ya, great, u understand me, great, my name is yen and u?


Yeah that's all I'm good at is understanding girls makes up for my lack of money.

lylyly

sorry, it is really  i dont understand clearly what u said, but it is the same as my thinking,i feel so upset about your words

khanh44

lylyly wrote:

sorry, it is really  i dont understand clearly what u said, but it is the same as my thinking,i feel so upset about your words


Yen, I'm sorry if I upset you maybe you misunderstand me. I understand you well.  Maybe we can have a coffee sometime and we can understand each other better and you can teach me some Vietnamese and I can help improve your written English.

lylyly

vietnamese, ya, sound great, my skype: lan.lysong

hELLnoi

khanh44 wrote:
lylyly wrote:

sorry, it is really  i dont understand clearly what u said, but it is the same as my thinking,i feel so upset about your words


Yen, I'm sorry if I upset you maybe you misunderstand me. I understand you well.  Maybe we can have a coffee sometime and we can understand each other better and you can teach me some Vietnamese and I can help improve your written English.


:dumbom:
opssss

khanh44

lylyly wrote:

vietnamese, ya, sound great, my skype: lan.lysong


k, I'll skype you when I'm in Vietnam for some coffee. I thought your name was Yen? Is it Lan too?

lylyly

my real name is yen, lan is my nickname

Tito12

careful buddy,your new wife might not like you chatting and drinking coffee with other Vietnamese ladies :D It is a big no no with some traditional families,it can even bring shame to them if you are seen in public by their friends or someone who knows them.

khanh44

Tito12 wrote:

careful buddy,your new wife might not like you chatting and drinking coffee with other Vietnamese ladies :D It is a big no no with some traditional families,it can even bring shame to them if you are seen in public by their friends or someone who knows them.


good point. Actually I was just talking with my new wife about my habits of randomly talking and making friends with strangers. She said I'm not allowed to randomly make friends with Vietnamese strangers especially any girls Vietnamese or not. But she said it's ok I make friends with Western guys.

So looks like I'm caged for a while unless you're a Western guy.

charmavietnam

:D

lylyly

ya, it is interesting,