Vietnam Retirement Destination
聽 聽Currently my budget would be around $1200 monthly for overseas.I am in retirement mode for the most part after a carrier in the food and beverage industry.I am a single male and will be traveling alone there.
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heaps of AAA's, (not necessarily) Actually Alarming Acts.
Research it well to get the gist.聽 聽Saves a lot of Grief, but
as a seasoned traveller you might know the ropes already
and have an open mind to living without stress..?
You'll be badgered about your budget, but I have proven
you can (easily) live on US$500 (or less).聽 Bin there, dunnit.
Avoid the cities and tourist traps (as if I need tell you!), fly
under the radar as required workwise & etc... (or not) and
you'll find your own design for utopia.聽
Heaven on Earth for me, but I think laterally anyway...聽 聽

arthow wrote:... .I lived in Panama a few years as an expat but didn't really like it there for long term living ....
I am curious about what you experienced as negatives about Panama. I have heard it is getting more expensive around Panama City, and crime rates are high for much of Latin America, but I've never spoken to anyone who lived there.
For retiring in Asia, Vietnam, Thailand and Philippines are all good choices.
As the other poster have said the larger cities to me are the pits. Especially HCMC. However it does produce 95% of the GDP of Vietnam. I simps love DaNang. Nice wide streets, great area. Like the other poster said, a tad warmer than NhaTrang. And NT has been overtaken by the Russians and the Chinese. But you will love Lake Chapala I am sure. Much easier to simulate there than here. Cultures are more suitable to Western cultures than here.
聽 聽 聽 聽I just hope the overwhelming of the Chinese and Russians don't happen to Danang.I hear first hand that they have pretty much ruined Pattaya ,Thailand for just one example.
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And NT has been overtaken by the Russians and the Chinese.
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Yes, there are a lot of Russians and Chinese, but all of them are no that bad. There are Western Russians and Asian Russians, and the Asian Russians are OK and also regard the other lot as loud, rude and obnoxious.聽 As for Chinese, there are rude peasants who are noisy and obnoxious, and young, educated city folk, who are not a problem at all. I overhear the latter chatting at the swimming pools and they are just normal, pleasant middle class people.
I live in Saigon and love its vibrancy, despite the year-round heat and humidity (not too bad in the slightly cooler dry season from December-ish to April-ish). Hanoi gets cold in winter and even more hot and humid than Saigon in summer (too far from the sea for any cooling air flow, and worse air pollution due to the neighbouring mountains that trap the air).
I enjoy going to Hanoi for its more 'stately' Vietnamese 'purity'. It's the cradle of Vietnamese culture, and it's also where the government sits and Party orthodoxy holds sway. Saigon is more of a hybrid of Vietnamese, Khmer (Cambodian) and Western influences and is culturally far more dynamic -- not to mention that it's the economic dynamo of the country.
Interestingly, most of the expats I know who move from Saigon to Hanoi regret the move, and most who move from Hanoi to Saigon don't want to go back.
All that said, the upcoming economic powerhouse of Danang may present the best of both worlds. The climate is mostly agreeable next to the sea, though it does suffer from the occasional typhoon. It has a very go-getter provincial government that's trying to attract talent worldwide and all over Vietnam with financial investors, academics and project developers. Plus, the picture-postcard city of Hoi An is nearby for lovely architecture, great food and a sense of what things used to be like (if you ignore the persistent touts and other tourist crap).
But yes, as others have recommended, have a bit of a look around before you pin yourself down. Even after that, you can always move. A wonderful luxury problem to have...
聽 聽 聽 Also,what about my health care options there?Is it practical to self insure?Here in the states i have V.A. Health care but realize i can't use it while in Nam.
聽 Vung Tau appears to be close enough to Saigon to benefit from cheaper flights to Aus, and provides access to the sea which is good for someone who has spent a long time close to the coast. Not that I take part in any water sports, I just like being close to it.
聽 I spent a few days in Da Nang trying to look at accomodation and unfortunately things didn't go as anticipated. I intend to return there to have another look, then decide where to move starting from July.
I had a lengthy conversation with a really nice, helpful guy who sells bus tickets at Saigon airport and told him about Da Nang and Vung Tau being my main considerations. He suggested adding De Lat but, after further thought (confirmed by the passage above) that seems a place for an extended visit.
聽 Once again, thank you so much for the information and I would appreciate any additional information on my two main choices (Vung Tau and Da Nang)
I believe both places have strong ex pat communities. I have UK origins with forty years in Aus and the last two years teaching Maths in English to Chinese senior students in Nanjing where my close friends came from all over but mainly from the US and Germany.
..even if yu don't wantit...聽 聽 聽

I have been living in Vietnam for most of the past 10 years; 1 year in HCMC the remainder in Hanoi.
Cost wise, it depends on where you live of course. The most popular area for expats is Tay Ho (West Lake), followed by Ba Dinh, which is near Tay Ho. Hoan Kiem is also popular, but it's where most tourists end up going and staying during their holiday. I currently rent a 4 bedroom, 5 story house in Ba Dinh for $550 (USD) per month. It has 2.5 baths, a large kitchen and living room. You can get cheaper, although not much cheaper, and also a great deal more expensive. My house is not fancy, but it is clean, fairly new and I have great landlords, which is VERY important. It's also on a quiet dead end lane, so it's very quiet. I think electricity would average out around 50 - 60 dollars per month. Depends on how much you use you air conditioner in the summer. Cable is around 20 dollars per month. Fruit and vegetables are quite inexpensive as are meats, namely pork, and chicken. Beef is more pricey if you go for imported. Local is cheaper but tougher than nails. They kill it today and eat it tomorrow.
I have holidayed often in Da Nang and I like it very much.
As has already been recommended, it's best you take some time and come here and take a look around and get a feel for the place. Traffic in both Hanoi and Saigon is a nightmare, but you get used to it. I'm 70+ and drive my motorbike around without any problem. Well, EVERYONE has had an accident of some sort, including me, but nothing major.
I teach English part-time and have been doing so since I came here. It's a good way to meet people, learn about the culture and the additional income is handy as well. All part of keeping active and engaged.
There are those that come and hate it, and those that come and love it. Which will you be? You better come and find out for yourself.
Good luck!
You can search for apartments online to get an idea of prices, but you have to search in Vietnamese. Start studying, it will help a lot!
Without the squiggle marks, cho thue =聽 for rent or for lease, can ho = apartment, so try
cho thue can ho Vung Tau
You will see sites like batdongsan, chotot, muaban (literally buysell), etc
Also note names are written as single syllable words, so Da Nang, Da Lat, etc not Danang, Dalat.
Use Chrome browser too for translation help.
The Ho Tram strip further east along the coast from there is the new frontier, though beyond the cancerous casino development it doesn't have the (limited) backup of a small city like Vung Tau yet.
Rob
But if you are just coming as a tourist (and that is most of us are) a 30 day tourist is fine . These things change with the wind here. Others can give you more up to date info. You use to be able to get a renewable 30 day visa, whereby you make a run to the border and renew it. If you marry a local it is an entirely different situation. You would be better served if you explained what your situations is though.
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