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vndreamer wrote:

Funny thing, she keeps asking why we have to go to the doctor often before the baby is born (compared to VN) and of course, always ask if we need to pay.聽 I explained insurance to her so she is happy we don't have to pay, otherwise, she tells me she is not going back until the baby is born. LOL

Here, too, you can go for a monthly examination.
We go every month and now in the final phase every week.
Each month 100k for the consultation, 300k for ultrasound and 200-500k for the vitamin tablets does not make me poor even without insurance.聽

Diazo wrote:

THIGV where is the rant on the testimony.

At 4:45 he says "I'm sorry if I rant about this."聽 It is a rant by his own description.聽

Can you or Jim-Minh describe to me how this video is on topic?聽 It certainly is not about Vietnamese women.

Jim-Minh wrote:

Kavanaugh at 4:33

On topic?聽 Normally, I would be the last one to complain about off-topic posts but I was accused first.聽 People who live in glass houses....

Jim-Minh wrote:

Kavanaugh at 4:33

I don't know if you're posting this because you're happy or disappointed.
Personally I hope after every message like this that the empire will soon go under and that the world can develop again free of coercion and blackmail.

Diazo wrote:

Even with monthly care here many tbings are not checked or concern given like that in, say聽 America.

I can't understand why you're saying this.
My experience is completely different.
I don't see much difference to examinations in the West.
- Blood count
- ultrasound
- heart rate
- vitamins

What could be better?
I was even recommended a test for trisomy 21 and other trisomies (which I rejected).
There are also controversial discussions in the West about testing (e.g. amniocentesis).

Diazo wrote:

Well Andy I suspect that it is due to your lack of knowledge, and I say that with no disrespect. And you should not have to be adroit in the areaof medicine to get good care. We are rather spoiled in the West because, in general, we have highly educated DOCTORS. They follow well established protocols.
Unfortunately here we start out in a bad situation because most medical providers do not have a dictorate degree vo fered hpon them. Most care givers you will ses her only have a Bachleors degree. They cone聽 right out high school and into a medical degree.

There are no accredited labs here in VN. You mention tge fact that they get a CBC. But they generally never check for iron levels, and I have not cound one that even knew the nlood vhemistry machine could check for mitgers calcium levels. They will argue here that if the RBC is within range that it follows that the iron level will be good. Far far from true. I could go on in depth.
Yes, if we lack knowledge we are going to think all is well.
In fact we went to a highly rated maternity hospital for a pre-pregnancy exam and no one said a word about folic acid.
Heck you can even observe hygiene. I am always having to tell th to glove up. Then comes the argument. But in the end they glove up.
I can tell you a whole lot of medical nightmares. But I am cautious when I see a Western doctor in my own country as well.
I certainly wish that all there was to a good pregnancy is the things you cited.

I always have to laugh when people who don't know me accuse me of lacking knowledge.聽

I have seen the blood count and know a little about it.
My wife had already taken iron and folic acid preparations before her first visit to the hospital.
The clinic provided us with vitamin preparations right from the start.
Depending on the week of pregnancy, we were supplied with iron, folic acid, vitamin B6, vitamin B12, calcium or a special multivitamin preparations.
The growth was closely monitored by ultrasonic聽 (again, there are controversial discussions about how many times ultrasonic should be used).

AND, different countries different standards.
US standards are not above everything (nobody in Europe likes chlorine chickens and GM foods).

But I don't want to discuss it any further.
Because you never come to an end with biased people.


Now Bazza can provide funny entertainment again.聽

Diazo wrote:

But what do you do if you lack the knowledge yourself. There atd some good websites folks that you can plug your pregnancy into and they will follow you along throughout the entire lrocess

Actually, you are the only one who always claims that nobody knows about folic acid during pregnancy.
I don't know any Expat who already has children, who wants children or is pregnant who doesn't know about folic acid.

Diazo wrote:

Andy, if your using FMP then they have good people and good practices. I would suggest you get a voly of their childhokd vaccine schedule also. The VNese one lacks some vaccines. Also if she is now pregnant I would suggest she get the 2018-2019 flu vaccine that just came聽 out. The baby will not聽 be able to get the vacvine until it is 6 months old. But the mothers immunity will xfer to the child. Most VNese doctors will not be wiling to give her the vaccine. If you fight and sign a release they will. Last years flu season was particularly deadly for the little ones. But FMP will give it to her.No world body recommends against giving to a pregnant mom, just the contrary.

No flu vaccination. I do what the clinic recommends.

Are these recommendations from the USA? You think the American way is the best.

The data speak a different language.

Number of neonatal deaths (thousands) 2017:
USA: 15
Vietnam: 17
Western Europe: <1


Do you notice anything?
The USA is not much better than Vietnam in terms of the number of neonatal deaths.
So why should I listen to you?

THIGV wrote:

The commonality of the US and Vietnam is probably not medical knowledge but the fact that both countries require people to shell out hard earned money for neonatal care.聽 Most countries in Europe practice some form of socialized medicine or arrive at universal coverage some other way.聽 I expect very few European women are paying for neonatal care

Perhaps you are right.
In Europe, many people have health insurance, but it also has to be paid for.
But the purchasing power in the USA isn't so bad (compared to Vietnam) that people couldn't afford neonatal care.