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pppham40 wrote:

Can you help to elaborate:聽 what is pay for quarantine?聽 Thanks,

From Sept 1st, anyone arriving into Vietnam will have to pay聽 for the mandatory聽 14 day quarantine costs.
Read the last paragraph on the report.

1willy1 wrote:

All this for a virus with a 99% + survival rate

Ridiculous if you ask me

Statistic notwithstanding, I'm certain you would not think all the prevention strategies are ridiculous if you or your loved ones belong to the unfortunate 1% group.

People keep saying there are more deaths in the US from the flu virus than from Covid, but according to the CDC, there were 34K people died of the flu during the 2018-2019 flu season, while there are 189K deaths due to this virus just in the last 6 months so far.

Let's ask the families of those 189K people how they think of the prevention and see how many of them say it's ridiculous.

Ciambella wrote:

Statistic notwithstanding, I'm certain you would not think all the prevention strategies are ridiculous if you or your loved ones belong to the unfortunate 1% group.

Tobacco kills many more people, but no problem, Vietnamese are still encouraged to smoke more and more!

BigTraveler wrote:

Tobacco kills many more people, but no problem, Vietnamese are still encouraged to smoke more and more!

Nobody encourages Vietnamese to smoke.聽 They smoke because they want to, not because there are adverts saying smoking is cool, or because the price of cigarettes is affordable to all.聽 In fact, the annual "Life without Smoke" campaign in Hanoi has attracted more participants every year.聽 Last year, over 1000 people marched around Sword Lake to show their attestation against cigarette smoking, a much larger crowd than the penultimate year.

Approximately 40k deaths in Vietnam every year are recorded as related to cigarette smoking.聽 If there were an encouragement to smoke as you said, didn't you think the number would have been much higher?

Vietnamkid wrote:

The Vietnamese government doesn't care if you think their handling of Covid-19 is ridiculous.聽 Your opinion is only important to you and not to them.聽 No matter how highly you think of yourself and your opinion on the matter, the VN government along with numerous other world governments have qualified scientists advising them.聽 They don't take shutting their countries down and harming their economies lightly.聽 But gee, your opinion and available knowledge is so much more brilliant than the though they have put into dealing with this.聽 You are a genius and the VN government is just a complete bunch of dummies.聽

Ha. Ha.聽 Stop thinking so highly of yourself and your opinion.

Nobody has any idea of who you are replying to. Have you heard about the quote function on here?

Vietnamkid wrote:

(in reply to Colin) Yes, I have heard of the quote function.聽 Didn't realize you were the forum police.聽 I hope it annoys you further that I am not going to use it.聽 Perhaps, you should let go of your need to control what others do.聽 Without using the quote function, I think people have a fairly good idea who I am replying to.

What a punk. Get lost. We don't need you offending respected Forum members here. We all want to see this thing work well with good communication, and if you can't accept a friendly reminder from a highly respected forum member then your participation is not welcome

Vietnamkid wrote:

Yes, I have heard of the quote function.聽 Didn't realize you were the forum police.聽 I hope it annoys you further that I am not going to use it.聽 Perhaps, you should let go of your need to control what others do.聽 Without using the quote function, I think people have a fairly good idea who I am replying to.

Fantastic. It's obvious you are some type of rebel.

Long live The Kid!

colinoscapee wrote:

Vietnamkid wrote:

Yes, I have heard of the quote function.聽 Didn't realize you were the forum police.聽 I hope it annoys you further that I am not going to use it.聽 Perhaps, you should let go of your need to control what others do.聽 Without using the quote function, I think people have a fairly good idea who I am replying to.

Fantastic. It's obvious you are some type of rebel.

Long live The Kid!

And it's obvious he doesn't respect the input of others.

He got great replies to this thread he created and never responded further in the thread.

Great way for him to get forum members to recommend him, if and when he ever relocates here and attempts to offer his legal services

IamCharlie wrote:

How much does it cost for the quarantine? I tried checking the article but couldn't find anything

On the opposite side of the spectrum in the post above which doesn't surprise me for the upper end the goverment just announced today the cost of sate run quarantine is $5.10 USD per day.聽 So, a huge range.

IamCharlie wrote:

Wow, that's still a crazy amount since accommodation is so cheap in Vietnam

They don't approve you to stay in cheap hostels or in motels that don't provide services.

If you are going to be in full quarantine in a hotel, they want to make sure that all of your needs are met.

A little while back there was a list of places in Ho Chi Minh City and they ranged from about $40 USD a night to $250 USD a night, in line with star ratings.

However, since then most of the locations have ceased participating in the program.

I know because I was calling down there and talking to them with the thought of possibly heading directly to Ho Chi Minh City from Danang.

SergGugu wrote:

The problem is that it is not only the 90 years old who died....lots of 50 to 60 years old have died in america.....and their time was not up yet......a little bit of compassion would not hurt.....

The majority of people who are dying already had existing medical issues. Covid is like the straw that broke the camels back.

SergGugu wrote:

So if u are 50 or 60 years old and you have heart problem it is ok that you die early because of the virus someone gives you?.....

Who said it was ok. Just saying that most people who are dying are already ill, healthy people are rarely聽 dying. Stop trying to twist things around.

colinoscapee wrote:

SergGugu wrote:

So if u are 50 or 60 years old and you have heart problem it is ok that you die early because of the virus someone gives you?.....

Who said it was ok. Just saying that most people who are dying are already ill, healthy people are rarely聽 dying. Stop trying to twist things around.

Anyone who's following the official position of the Vietnamese government in news releases will have seen that they are making a point of saying that the vast majority of deaths from COVID-19 were people with multiple comorbidities/pre-existing conditions.

Not a heartless position to take, it's just the facts.

colinoscapee wrote:

SergGugu wrote:

So if u are 50 or 60 years old and you have heart problem it is ok that you die early because of the virus someone gives you?.....

Who said it was ok. Just saying that most people who are dying are already ill, healthy people are rarely聽 dying. Stop trying to twist things around.

I don鈥檛 know if that鈥檚 true everywhere, but I had a look at the published numbers of the biggest hospital in my area (I鈥檓 stuck in Switzerland), and it鈥檚 true that very few of the deceased were younger than 60, even fewer under 50. However, and I think that鈥檚 very important, some of the survivors spent days or even weeks in the ICU, they were on respirators聽 and all kinds of treatments, and a lot of them just barely made it. There are also reports of people with permanent damage. But even if you heal completely, spending time in the ICU is no joke, I wouldn鈥檛 wish to anyone. So I think Vietnam has done the right thing, I think the numbers speak for themselves, if you look at them objectively.

Hooked wrote:

Do you mean death certificate

Yes death certificate , only 6% of the 220 000 American deaths are actually listed as covid.