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Can you find Lavender, Rosemary, figs or other familiar to US plants?

Glauriel Contributor

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11 years ago

#41

Didn't know that either...wow! Knew about the bell peppers but not the other stuff...thx

dreamtime Serial expat

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11 years ago

#42

Let's grow all these peppers here? Whose in?

Organic of course.

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acadien175 Active member

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11 years ago

#43

Glauriel,聽 While thinking over what should be included in a gardener's move to the DR, we received an unexpected suggestion from Dania's cousin who returned to the DR after spending >30 years in Spain.聽 The suggestion聽 is that we include our plant pots.聽 It appears it will be difficult to find replacement pots for the ones she left in Spain.聽

We have some pots which are ~3ft tall and had planned on selling them, but will now find space for them in our container shipment to the DR....

Ted

Glauriel Contributor

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11 years ago

#44

Interesting! Thanks for the insight... Unfortunately I just gave away all my pots! In anticipation of the move of course... All my babies and pots are living elsewhere except for the few remaining that wintered over here in the house...They are slated to go to my sisters very soon, as soon as the weather breaks for sure, prob mid May....The pots are tiny too...Oh well will see what I can do when I get there.聽 Have been known to be very creative in my plantings so may have to try that again. Appreciate the insight though....Will consider possibly locating a couple more if light weight! We have really cut our weight, went from 5400 pounds to 3000 pounds and still going! Really want to more "lose weight" if at all possible

acadien175 Active member

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11 years ago

#45

dreamtime wrote:
Let's grow all these peppers here? Whose in? Organic of course.

Peppers/chilli are native to the Caribbean & Central/South America聽 - Columbus found peppers in the DR in 1492, here's the story

Has any one tried the local bird pepper?聽 I tried one in Jamaica which left my mouth inflamed .

gypsy401 Serial expat

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11 years ago

#46

I grow things wherever I live.聽 I grow oriental bird peppers along with many other types.聽 I even grew horse radish that a friend brought from Canada in Sosua.聽 The 1st. year it barely survived, but the 2nd. year it almost took over the whole garden.聽聽Nothing like fresh grated horse radish to wake you up!聽聽 If you have a few square feet of ground, you can grow anything you can imagine.聽 You won't need pots unless you want them as house plants or only have a terrace or patio to grow on.聽 Put me on the list of growers.聽聽If you want very bushy & productive plants, when the main stem develops two other stems in a "Y",聽 prune it off just below the "Y".聽聽In a couple of weeks you will be amazed at all the new growth.聽 Sounds crazy but it truly works.聽聽 The first time that I did it, I felt terrible until I saw the results.聽聽Use the cuttings for compost.聽聽Put a couple of aspirin in your watering can,聽 it promotes rigorous root growth.聽聽I have learned many tips over the years.聽聽Good crops to you all, & don't forget the Epsum Salts too!

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dreamtime Serial expat

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11 years ago

#47

How do you use Epsom salts?

Glauriel Contributor

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11 years ago

#48

Thanks Gypsy, obviously you know many gardening tips...

gypsy401 Serial expat

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11 years ago

#49

Sprinkle it generously on your compost & mix it into your garden soil, ( a handful every 6 to 8 sq. feet. )聽 water it well.聽 It "Sweetens" the soil & helps to balance the PH.聽聽 The American Indians used the leaves of the willow tree for mulch.聽 ( willow is the source of aspirin) .聽 If I can be of service to fledgling gardeners, let me help you feather out so that you can soar with the eagles.

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Glauriel Contributor

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11 years ago

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acadien175 Active member

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11 years ago

#51

There are different types of soils in the DR, of interest is the reddish soil to be found in a number of areas.聽聽I think this is soil which contains bauxite (used for making aluminum - Alcoa has had mines in both the DR and Jamaica, the DR mining currently handled聽 by Sierra Bauxita).聽聽聽

If we end up in a place with this type of soil we will look for what works best with it instead of fighting it - there are reports that the flavor of ortaniques is greatly enhanced by bauxite containing soils:

An ortanique will be added to our planting list...

Glauriel Contributor

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11 years ago

#52

Whats an ortanique?

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acadien175 Active member

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11 years ago

#53

An ortanique is a citrus fruit hybrid between a tangerine and an orange.聽 It was discovered in Jamaica in ~1920 and has an amazing flavor (personal experience - triple yummy) - the flesh is orange-colored, tender, and exceptionally juicy.聽 I think it is known as leckosa in the DR.

Ted

P.S. There is another citrus hybrid called an ugli which is a blend between grapefruit, orange, and tangerine. It has a rough, wrinkled, greenish-yellow rind and the flavor is sweeter than a grapefruit.

Glauriel Contributor

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11 years ago

#54

Interesting, never heard of any of them, but good to be educated! Thx.

dreamtime Serial expat

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11 years ago

#55

That's good to know on Epsom salt. I will try it out.

Right now I'm trying to figure out the soil and how to use it here. The soil in the back yard I scooped out and put into pots. It's really compacted clay. I have to hand break it down a little or it's just big chunks. Maybe I should of screened it fine before putting it in pots to plant the seedlings or transplanted seedlings. I think fruit trees that are local here pop right up. But anything not local to this soil doesn't work as well in it as it is hard as a rock on the surface if it's not wet.

Any suggestions on what I can do to get some good soil in my pots? I want to grow vegetables and fruit trees to start. Eventually I will move the fruit trees to some land somewhere but I have time until that happens.

billandelaine Contributor

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11 years ago

#56

Can't believe I'm replying to a question after only a week here!聽 But I must say I've seen several places selling terracotta pots in all different sizes along the the 3 km聽 road to Cabarete.聽 So they are surely available other places!

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acadien175 Active member

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11 years ago

#57

dreamtime wrote:
That's good to know on Epsom salt. I will try it out.

Right now I'm trying to figure out the soil and how to use it here. The soil in the back yard I scooped out and put into pots. It's really compacted clay. I have to hand break it down a little or it's just big chunks. Maybe I should of screened it fine before putting it in pots to plant the seedlings or transplanted seedlings. I think fruit trees that are local here pop right up. But anything not local to this soil doesn't work as well in it as it is hard as a rock on the surface if it's not wet.

Any suggestions on what I can do to get some good soil in my pots? I want to grow vegetables and fruit trees to start. Eventually I will move the fruit trees to some land somewhere but I have time until that happens.

Dreamtime,聽 the local farmers/campesinos know where and how to get soil. We had a truck load of top soil delivered to the place we own in Sabana de la Mar, our part-time gardener was able to get a road construction crew working the area to deliver it.聽

Ted

Bob K VIP Member

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11 years ago

#58

yes those flower pots are all over the place.

Bob K

dreamtime Serial expat

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11 years ago

#59

Ok. I'll ask a local guy to find out.

Thanks.

gypsy401 Serial expat

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11 years ago

#60

If your dirt is mostly clay, mix in a bunch of sand & any dead leaves you have around.聽 DO NOT use beach sand,聽 it is way too salty.聽聽Start a compost pile. dig a hole of good size about 18 inches deep.聽 Put all kitchen scraps, cuttings leaves etc in the hole.聽 Can lightly cover with sand or whatever dirt you might have.聽聽NEVER put meat, fish or dairy products in it.聽 You can tear up newspapers in strips and add to the pile.聽 Soak it well & keep moist. if you can, cover it with plastic or a tarp, that keeps evaporation to a minimum.聽聽Coffee grounds are also great to use along with wood ashes if you have some.聽聽Ashes from a BBQ are good if from local carbon, ( charcoal ).聽聽The commercial briquete have chemicals that are harmful.聽聽Every 3 or 4 days turn the pile , mix it up well, keep wet.聽聽Continue to add organic material & in a month or so you'll have some fine compost.聽聽Old manure from cows, horses sheep ,goat ,chickens will enrich it to no end.聽 If you don't have access to manure don't worry, you'll still be fine.聽聽It doesn't take luck, just persistence.聽聽Good growing!!!!

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planner Dominican Republic Expert

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11 years ago

#61

YES pots are easy to find here, do not worry. And yes locals know where to get the good dirt depending on your needs!

I am about to get 100 tons of dirt or some such amount............truckloads................ building a yard, a garden and LAWN..............

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dreamtime Serial expat

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11 years ago

#62

Access to manure? It's all over the place where I live. Cows are everywhere. In front, behind, down the street. Everywhere!聽

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acadien175 Active member

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11 years ago

#63

Raw manure?聽

This is normally not recommended for gardens and not just for the unwanted smell.聽聽 We have always used composted manure - heat from the composting process destroys seeds and removes the toxins which can burn plants.

planner Dominican Republic Expert

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11 years ago

#64

chicken poop is usable fairly quickly here,聽 everything decomposes fast and grows just as fast.....

gypsy401 Serial expat

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11 years ago

#65

I did say聽 "old manure".聽聽You are right, frsh is harmful, but it doesn't take long to decompose.聽聽 People around here rake & bag their leaves.聽 I go around looking for them & drag them home.聽聽Sometimes I can amass a dozen or more 33 gal bags at one time.聽 I always have lots of compost working year round.聽聽The soil here is basically sand.聽 it takes some ork to make the soil rich & black.聽 I have several plnter boxes haning on my wood privacy fences as well as 7 small in ground plots.聽聽All together only about 1,000 square feet.聽 I also have a young orange tree, & peach tree.聽 A couple of bluberry bushes,聽 3 abcate & 1 lemon tree.聽 All started from seeds except the orang tree,聽聽They have to start from grafts.聽 It takes about an hour a day to keep everything going well.聽聽Great exercise.聽聽聽Keep growing folks, it all tastes so good.

dreamtime Serial expat

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11 years ago

#66

That's what I meant. I can just scoop up the cow poo and put it in the compost pile.

dreamtime Serial expat

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11 years ago

#67

Chicken poop is here too. All over the place. I can use that too in the compost pile? They are going to think the gringo is really crazy now dragging home all the poo

planner Dominican Republic Expert

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11 years ago

#68

Hahahaha now I have an image of you dragging poop bags..........聽 chicken manure is awesome!!!!

Bob K VIP Member

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11 years ago

#69

The poop man cometh

Bob k

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gypsy401 Serial expat

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11 years ago

#70

Yes, use the chicken s--t in compost.聽聽They will think that you are crazy until they see the results.聽聽It is obvious that I didn't proof read my last post, no excuse, just tired & lazy I guess.

planner Dominican Republic Expert

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11 years ago

#71

Tired we can forgive......LOL聽聽Drink more rum, it helps......

acadien175 Active member

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11 years ago

#72

It can be a quantum change that is happening, my cunado is a Dominican compesino/pescador - we taught his family to not give left overs to the pig as you have a 'fridge and left overs聽 taste better the next day, then moved on to what to do with waste veggie scraps which are now going to compost and not the garbage...

Drink good rum neat or with ice but never with pop!

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gypsy401 Serial expat

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11 years ago

#73

The best sipping rum I've ever had the good fortune to drink is聽 Cruzan Single Barrel.聽聽As the name suggests, it is not blended, it is a fine aged rum drawn from a single barrel.聽聽If there isn't enough to fill the last bottle it is given as a freebie to any one taking the tour.聽聽After hurricane Hugo, I worked on the restoration of the plantation mansion.聽 We got to know the family who started the distillery a couple of hundred years ago.聽聽Amazing people, amazing rum.聽 The Estate Rum is another fine Cruzan rum.聽 Not expensive in St. Croix but very much so off island..聽 When I built my first bar at Salt River, a bottle of gold聽 ( dark ) rum it cost $.89 cents.聽聽When I moved to the DR in the spring of 2002, you could buy a 1.75 bottle of gold for under $6.00.聽聽Here now a 1.75 of cheap store brand dark rum is over $17.00.聽 I sure miss the "old days".