Visas ... France
I was wondering who in this forum has experienced that application process that may be able to answer a few questions...
1) How long after your appointment did it take you get your visa approved?
2) How fussy are they on the approval process when you're basically a "good" 😇 US citizen?
3) Is the process of extending a one year visa as grueling as the 1st application process was... or is it simpiler?
4) Can it be extended (or renewed) while remaining in France or do you have to return to the US?
Thank you I appreciate your responses!
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I’m an American and I moved to France back in 2003. Quick answer? It could be easy but be prepared for some amount of frustration. There are relatively few Americans on France compared to the number of Europeans, so the bureaucrats in France don’t have a lot of experience in how to deal with us. That said, they are perhaps more aware if what to do with non-Europeans these days since all the Brits now have the same immigration status as Americans (or any other non-Europeans). But in the end, they do welcome us and you'll eventually succeed in getting a residency permit. Something you should be sure to do is make several copies of every single piece of paper you had to use to get your visa. Also, we found - the day before we left! - that we would need a letter from the French Consulate saying that you are moving from the US to France. Its a formality, but it seemed necessary. That may have changed but you should check with your consulate. They are a great resource, of course, and will be up to date on what the latest rules are. Once you’re here, you'll have to renew your permit every year for, I think, 5 years. After that you can apply for a 10 year permit. Typically, its easy, ut can take some time. In our experience, each year we would bring a pile of papers to the Prefecture, and they would give us a check off list of other papers they wanted. We'd bring those and often get yet another list. But eventually we'd end up with the permit.  But in the end, they will make it work. They actually seem to want to make it work but French bureaucracy is so convoluted it annoys the bureaucrats just as much as it annoys everyone they're trying to help. Anyway, good luck!
It certainly gives me a good insight into what's ahead.
It's this first step and the anxieties of waiting for the ok on the visa
and having everything on hold not knowing if they'll approve it... though
I'm feeling like they will! ....I do have that pending property lease, which as you say is Paramount!
Thank you!
The only thing that I had trouble with was trading my driver's license in for a French one. It took a year and got sent back twice for more. But that part was all by email.
And you need to ask questions here. And to answer your question you have to give me more information. Why are you here? Doing what? Immigrating? Just a visit? School? Working? They all are different. If you are here for family reasons. You presented Documents to get the Visa.
For any reason, you need to keep the documents because they will be needed (maybe) at every step. You were told to contact the Prefecture within 90 days of arriving? Go to the Prefects web page for the department that you gave as your destination. Even if you read French use Google Translate to confirm. It translates a document written in PDF or the phone APP will do it by reading the text. Caution it is not perfect - him and her, he and she, male and female is only 50% right. And if you use Google Chrome on your computer it will do well on most web pages. Caution. I print to file PDFs in both English and French of pages and forms so they are easy to go back to. Next time they will be different but maybe the same number. Always check. Ok, the first contact is to ensure that you are here and where you said you would be. And collect the tax stamp. That happens fast. Every Perfect is different. But the email and the number you get are proof you checked in and that may be it for the year. Or they will tell you. You will have to set up the next appointment. If they say 2 months before it runs out that's it, start then. As long as you contact them and get an appointment before the end. Even if the appointment is after your VLS runs out the appointment email is your pass. The renewal will start on the day after the old one runs out whenever it happens.
You will never see the headman, you deal with whoever is at the window when your appointment happens. And they just check the papers against the list. It is only mins you pass, or get sent back to go. All documents requested, copied onto A4 paper one side (it all gets scanned) no folds, bends, or staples. In the exact order of the list of documents. (Hard to do sometimes) (the same Document in 2 places works. I put them in a folder and use paper clips to hold groups. It is about making it easy for them. Be on time, No extra talk, smile, Listen to the person. Appointment paper first, ID next, document papers next. If they want to see the original you must have it or you have to come back. I keep a big file with me for the interview with the originals in the same order. And a second one with everything from the start. And watch the things like your birth certificate and others that have to be less than (X) months old. Or greater than (x) months before they expire. My Perfect lets me send the file in by mail or internet transfer. Never send the only original. If they want to see the original. that will slow things down. Good copies are a must. I have always done it in person. But now I know the rules so next time Internet. When copying a passport for entry proof copy all the pages including the first blank one. And if you married and have a Green Book it is the same they need that blank page.
John
But I digress. Even if he did qualify for an education visa, I'm pretty sure you couldn't come along fro the ride; you'd need to qualify some other way, unless YOU plan to enroll in a class (I wonder if cooking schools qualify; if so that could be fun, at least, if you love cooking).
Does anyone else have any ideas?
Cooking class would be an excellent idea.
I have been living in France for 3 years now on a student's visa. I studies french language the first two years so that I could integrate easier and last year, I enrolled in an MBA program. I finished the academic part and now in search for an internship to complete the program. It's just all been a negative response to the internship application which is getting quite frustrating.
I agree from experience that the visa is renewed yearly and that's provided that I could show proof that I have registered in a school which allows me to work just part time. Do you have an idea or suggestion on how else I could stay here in France if I am no longer a student to reach the 5 years and hopefully apply for a carte de séjour where I could eventually work full time ? Let's get real, I can't be a student forever LOL. :-)
Thank you in advance for any information that you might or could share.
Regards,
Ana
Assuming you do not also have EU citizenship and are not a US diplomat, the only way I can think of to stay and enjoy all the rights residents have would be to marry an EU citizen living in France.
Bob
That's right, I am not an expat through work. I came to France after quitting my job in NYC to learn the language and see if I actually like it here as it has always been my dream to live in France since I first visited. Anyhow, if I stay for 5 years as a student, could that eventually be a path to getting a resident card? Note that I could enrol again for french classes as I have not reached the highest level which I believe is C2.
Je vous remercie.
As for working in France, you would need to apply for a work visa while in the US. You first need to have an offer from a company in France, either a French company or an American one. You can't just blow in and start knocking on doors!
Karen
One more thing: Dominique doesn't think you'll be able to arrive in France as quickly as you think, in part because of the pandemic situation vis-a-vis the US. Also, keep in mind that school attendance for minors is mandatory and begins in September. It's all very complicated, I'm afraid, but still your first step is to contact the French consulate and get your visa application in.
. I was hoping to get him started in January. I will be in France next month to visit the Rectorat. Worst case we may have to wait until September 2022. Say thank you to Dominique.
Karen
I do have a CDS as I am currently enrolled in a school. If I continue to be enrolled for another 2 years with the hopes to getting further improving my french language learning, will I then be entitled to apply for a regular CDS resident and no longer student after the 5th year ?
Thank much for sharing your thoughts.
Ana
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