USA to France
I was wondering if anyone in this group is currently looking to move to France?
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I'm French, I live in France and I used to be a relocation coach.
Are you planning or dreaming to move to France? If so, send me your questions and I'll see if I can answer or put you in contact with American friends.
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Can you share what you paid?
Our shipping cost of our furniture and belongings during Covid in October 2020 was $8,000
Having just retired, we plan to decompress for a bit, then explore in this area, maybe a day trip or two to Strasbourg, and definitely visit a couple wineries in the Champagne region. (Finally, I get to stop using the term "sparkling wine!")
Next up -- ditch my US Verizon mobile phone and get a new account here. I'm looking at Orange, any thoughts?
Since you moved to France from USA, please let me how did you do to get housing when they want a co-signer, the last 3 salary statements......when we do not know people in France who could be co-signers and that our salary statements are in English?
Thank you for your posting! Simply curious, how much does the international bank (the one where you opened an account) require as initial deposit? Would you know of other banks that would allow U.S. citizens to open a bank account? If so, what are they?
Thanks in advance!
-M
Can you open a bank account before establishing residency?
Can you secure housing before having a job?
Are there reputable furniture/car shipping companies (we see reviews where people have their items held hostage!)?
How difficult is it to find specialists (doctors) in France that speak some English?
These are things that are difficult to do in Los Angeles and we’re worried the process will be equally painful in France.
We are scouring this forum for recommendations. We’ll be asking more specific questions in the months to come. Appreciate all of your answers so we don’t have to reinvent the wheel.
I realize I just asked multiple questions in one post and I really need to post them all separately. I just wanted to say hello and blurt out the things that are currently causing us to panic. Additionally, I’d love to hear what your thoughts are on what we should really be worried about moving from the U.S. to France!
Side Note: My husband has an American passport. I have both Polish & American passports.
Housing should not be much of a problem. But to open an account you need to have a proof that you have actually housing. Meaning, a copy of an electriciybill or similar.
Two things are very important I find : health insurance (CPAM is the governmental service where you can get all info)
And second ... do yourself a huge favor and study as much French as you can before coming over. French people are really ok as long as you show that you'll do all it takes to fit in. And the most important for that is speaking French as their English sucks to say the least haha.
Good luck to you all
Marcel
I am curious. Do you own your house/apt?
Because renting an unfurnished place is very difficult. I am still struggling to find a decent place I can rent unfurnished in Paris because as an entrepreneur I do not have a CDI and the required amounts on taxes. So much so I created a Facebook group to help people understand the rental laws in France.

It all starts with the conditions that bring you here
1) Are you coming with jobs awaiting you and are they work contracts ? CDI / CDD
2) and whether you are looking to buy a place or rent furnished or unfunrnished?
Lets start with this info.
You will need an address to open a bank account and to register with CPAM to get your Health Insurance card
Kindly
Cassis
We bought a house when we came to live here. It does take some patience to get it all in order but in the end it was all worth it. We tried to open an account in "crédit agricole" but they wanted proof of a bill. As we were still in the proces of bying it was not possible. They understood the duality of the problem in the bank and let us open an account after we promised to bring in proof after ...
Whether you hire or buy, it all depends on the region. We live in Burgundy and there's so much for sale around here that the choice is immense and they are glad to find byers.
For reasons I still do not understand, my wife got here "carte vital" from CPAM after a few weeks where it took almost one year for mine ...
Also, we experienced that, when we wanted to get a lone for a new car, this was not possible. No loan in France because my income is from Belgium and no loan in Belgium because I my adress is in France !! 🤪 Perfection does not exist I suppose
All in all, it may have taken a while to get settled but it was really worth it.
Marcel
I was born in France and lived here till I was 23 and it took me 9 months to get my Carte Vitale so I sympathize!
From seeing it on my Facebook group, having the possibility to buy a place when you arrive in France v. renting if you don't fall in the contract work with high salary demographic changes everything
As I said before, the time, energy and thus money wasted to find an owner who will rent an unfurnished place to someone even with money on the bank account is unbelievable.
I had 6 digits on my bank account when I arrived and no agency would take me on because of the Loi Alur and the fact it can take up to 3 years to evict someone who does not pay their rent.
I wasted 8 months of my life, ended up jumping on an offer to rent an expensive unfurnished appartment I had to take as is and redo (hardwood floor, paint etc) only to be told later the owner wanted to come back to live in it.
Needless to say, I absolutely regret moving back to France. I should have moved to Portugal or Spain.
Cheers
In my experience, it is not really a "country" that fails you but rather a situation depending on your expectations... There's flaws where ever you go ...
Marcel
Thanks
Erick
We are planning the move, but may need to do Plan B or C. Several years ago I traveled more often than now and we we're going to buy a property long distance. There are risks, but also potential big savings in the overall process. We are looking for short-medium term rentals (cheaper than the 1 month tourist rentals in Paris). Locations: Hauts de Seine, Oise, Yvelines, Rouen or Marseille area. Any ideas? Thanks so much.
jdh
My name is Sonia, I am in the process of making my longtime dream come true and move to Paris; however, I am also finding the process a bit confusing.
I am in my mid 40's and a Nurse by trade. I am able to come on a Long Stay Visa and support myself for a year; however, this visa does not allow me to work or even look for work while I am there. I am looking to live in France permanently. So, I have also contemplated applying for a LS student visa, which will allow me to work at least part time and be able to look for full time work. I am an American Citizen; however, I was born in a Francophone country and I'm almost fluent in French (except for some difficulties with the grammar). All this to say I don't really need to go to school to improve my french but I do need the visa to be able to work or look for work in the country.
Sorry, for the long post everyone. (:
So, here is my problem. As I said don't really need the school but have to in order to get the visa. The problem is, I have learned that I have to register for an intense course with at least 20 hours of french/week. All the schools I have found on Campus France in the Visa section will cost me about almost $4,000 for a 12 weeks course which is needed for a long stay visa.
I don't want to pay $4,000 for something that I don't really need or will at least get a license that I could at least use for work. Also, I have learned there plenty of free french courses I can take.
Can someone please let me know if the the information I have is correct, if there is other means to qualify for a Long Stay Visa. Am I wrong about the information.
HelP!
They will send you a letter to your listed address that is your receipt until they send you a letter with your appointment with OFII. Yes, there is a fee for most steps. Which are paid with stamps. Which will be sold on the website that takes bank cards. Or a Tabac sells them. This is for you to qualify to stay. You will go to the appointment with all your documents and their first question is do you speak French. It is at this appointment that they will decide if your French is good enough. And they will tell you at the end of the interview how many hours of school you need. You may well be fine. It may be none. They have their way to do things and involve many rules and forms. You request the VLS, which is the way you are stuck with. Changing your path makes you a flake. They do not understand that freedom to change your mind which in the US is normal. Also when you want something from the gov you must do as told, well and on time. Their job is to serve but you have to do what is required or start over. So picking the reason for requesting the VLS must be done carefully since you will have to comply with the requirements on time to be able to get a renewal of the right to stay. So do not jump in without knowing what you need to do.    Â
This is a very good source    He is a Lawyer and helped me a lot. But he gives plenty of free information and advice. Read the newsletters about renting, getting work, taxes. I do not speak French but my wife is French and we have one foot in each country and it is very complicated. Lydia does not speak Tec, Bank, or Gov and does not believe that rules apply to her. I now have my first TITRE DE SEJOUR after 4 years of getting a new VLS each year. It is complicated because coming and going is legal, but they do not have a way to deal with it. And each Prefecture does it their way so my Toulouse experience is different than Paris. Good Adventure. You can trade your Florida Driving permit in for a French one because they have an agreement with Florida. That took a Year.
When emailing you will not get a response from anyone unless you ask for one. With every submission of information and documents, the response will take 3 months and a week before you get a letter. They will not even look until yours comes to the top of the pile. Everything starts at the back of the line. But this is not Paris here. Pushing might work there. Most Gov contact is by internet and they have APPs All documents must on A4 paper be in the order of the LIST no staples. They scan everything but if you do not have something that is on the list, the interview is over. You start over. I use paper clips. And a folder so it stays straight and in order. When you are ready it goes well and with smiles.
It is great fun and a wonderful country but it is different.
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