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redmik wrote:

There are two threads for this same question........Agreed and not just from Malta that issues could arise but depending upon the terms of any agreements with the father and considering his rights (without knowing the history) generally, you may need his permission to remove the child from Bulgaria. I would check up at the Bulgarian end first to prevent issues arising, under Bulgarian or EU law, later.
Then sort out Malta.

Believe it or not, the Uk are not so concerned. There you don't need 2 signatures for the passport, only one signature for starting school and no evidence what so ever that you have custody of the child to claim benefit!!

redmik wrote:

The reason I mentioned it is that sometimes one parent will remove a child without permission (though that does depend upon agreements and any orders made in the child's country of birth). That can and sometimes does lead to nasty legal proceedings.

Yes I realised that, which is why I said Malta is very hot on that unlike the UK that don't have any safe guards for this, at all! You just turn up with the child, no questions asked, if you have their birth certificate, that matches your surname, that's it. No reference to whether you have custody of that child. Then yes, very lengthy proceedings through the Hague Convention to have the child returned. At least Malta has safe guards in place to reduce the chance of that happening.

James wrote:

For international travel with a minor child (under 16 years of age) accompanied by one parent only (or other adult) one needs the following to satisfy international rules and local immigrations laws in most countries:

1.  Notarized letter of permission to travel from the other parent(s) which outlines such things as proposed date of departure and return, full name of adult and child, identifying information such as passport number, address where child will normally reside in destination, contact numbers for both parents; or

2.  If the letter mentioned above is unavailable then one requires an order of a competent Court of Law allowing travel; or

3.  Order granting sole custody to the parent who is traveling with the minor; or

(note that in most countries planning to move outside the jurisdiction is grounds for the Courts to review custody and revert any former Court Orders should the move be challenged)

4.  Death certificate of the other parent; and

5.  Valid passport for child; and

6.  Valid visa(s) as required, including Transit Visas where necessary; and

7.  Any other such documents that may be necessary for entry such as vaccination records, return or outward bound ticket, etc.

In most cases you would not even pass through airport or other point of entry/exit security without such documents and likely would not even be permitted by the lines to board the aircraft or vessel or other means of transportation.

This is certainly the case with most countries that have ratified the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction. Regarding entry, many countries may even have more stringent requirements so it is always wise to check with their Consulate to obtain a full and up to date list of their requirements for entry with a minor child.

Cheers,
James         Expat-blog Experts Team

That might be the law but through experience this is NOT the case.

redmik wrote:

All one needs is a certified copy of any order or agreement specifying permission to take child out of the country and which gives parental control to the parent taking the child

And isn't that essentially exactly what is contained in the information I posted, and the alternatives if it is not available? (Moderated)

coxf0001 wrote:

But you haven't bothered to read my posts James,

I did read your post. I have given you the recommendations of almost every governmental agency involved with immigrations. These are the documents that can be demanded anywhere. It's up to you what you do. You are prepared for ANYTHING that they could possibly ask you to produce or you accept whatever the consequences or inconvenience of not doing so may be. I know I sure wouldn't want to sit in detention somewhere for a couple of hours while they sorted things out and found out I really did have the right to travel with a child. Remember, they won't even give you an apology or compensate you in any way... they're just doing their job.

It's up to you.

Sorry, I gave you the complete list; . Go with whatever feels good!

redmik wrote:

The answers are:
Get an official letter, from a lawyer, stating that you have full consent to leave the country with your child and that the father gives all rights of decisions of the child to you. Or
All one needs is a certified copy of any order or agreement specifying permission to take child out of the country and which gives parental control to the parent taking the child.
Once you have an official letter, then you won't need the father's signature for anything and enrolment into school will be straight forward.

And it all needs to be in English !!!

Terry

eurobel wrote:

Hello all,

Would it be correct to say that if a child is 16yrs old there would be no need for dual signatures should he want to reside in Malta?

Thanks...most appreciate some enlightenment..

I can not say for sure but the legal age of consent is 18 here and technically they are still children at 16.

Samantha oreilly wrote:

Also how the healthcare system works out there?
Samantha x :-)

Click and read the link below but also if your husband is working then you and your family are covered by his SS payments. You could if desired also take out health insurance.

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redmik wrote:

A child is a child until aged 18 years. (The age of consent is a different thing.) Dual signatures? That depends upon your arrangements/orders etc regarding care of the child and custody etc.
Be on the safe side have a legal agreement drawn up.

Until they are 18, technically they can not be seen by a doctor without the parents consent, can not report a crime committed to themselves without the parents consent (including rape.) They can not leave home until they are 18 or leave the country without their parents consent. Unlike the UK for example, where all of the above things can be done at 16...The UK age of consent.