Stamping passport on exit & entrance
I am NOT carrying a Brazilian passport, I heard that some land boarder check points don't stamp your passport when going in or out from Brazil, is that right? anyone has such experience / information he can share?
Regards
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Brazil14 wrote:Hi,
I am NOT carrying a Brazilian passport, I heard that some land boarder check points don't stamp your passport when going in or out from Brazil, is that right? anyone has such experience / information he can share?
Regards
Cheers,
James聽 聽 聽Expat-blog Experts Team
"Tr锚s Fronteiras" which is in the Amazonas and borders Santa Rosa de Yavari, Peru; Leticia, Amazonas, Colombia and Tabatinga, Amazonas, Brazil.
The only way in and out of Tabatinga and Leticia is by boat and air. On all boats whether for tourism or long distance journeys to Manaus they check passports or identity card (where applicable.) In Colombia, at the airport (Alfredo V谩squez Cobo International Airport) they may or may not check your passport. However when transiting through Bogot谩 or any other port of entry in Colombia where you are leaving the country, Migration will and I can assure you the will. If you do not have a stamp, you will not be leaving the country. In fact in Colombia it is a FEDERAL CRIME to not have an entry stamp in your passport and is can and sometimes will result in a jail sentence depending on circumstance and aggravating factors. Do not risk it. If you are crossing into Colombia from Tabatinga for the day and going back into Tabatinga that same day this is deemed acceptable but keep in mind leaving Leticia without an entry stamp for elsewhere into Colombia or entering Brazil and leaving Tabatinga for elsewhere into Brazil without an entry stamp is prohibited.
When it comes to Peru, you are not going anywhere outside of Santa Rosa de Yavari without an exit stamp (it is an island) from Colombia or Brazil, period. And the Peruvian authorities do not play around either, I learned that first hand myself in Lima at Jorge Chavez International Airport myself when I entered Lima on my Brazilian Identity card and tried to leave on my American passport. However, it is not a crime like it is in Colombia.
My advice, if you are staying more than one day - just get the exit stamp from the country you are exiting and then get the entry stamp from the country you are entering. Open borders are a recipe for an unregulated disaster.
AMERICAN AND OTHER PASSPORT HOLDERS REQUIRING VISAS TO ENTER BRAZIL - just because the border is open in this region does not mean you do not require a Brazilian visa. In fact when I entered Brazil for the first time it was via. Tabatinga. We reported to the Federal Police (which by the way is inside the city no where near the border.) The Federal Agent was as friendly as can be, spoke fluent English, but the first thing he looked for in my passport was the visa. He did not even look at the biographical data page. I have heard from others as well, the PM and DPF stopping tourists and asking for their passport. I would hate to be the one American or Canadian that did not comply with Visa Reciprocity and did not have a Brazilian Visa in their passport just because they came into Brazil for 10 minutes to say you were there. You might not have needed the stamp but you needed that visa.
Good luck.
*edit*
Let me correct myself. They never have checked for a passport for me. There has been a couple of trips where I've seen them randomly search cars for items being brought in, but this hasn't happened to me.
What problems "Not having the Brazilian exit stamp" will create? from Argentina perspective & from re-entering Brazil perspective?
Not having an exit stamp in your passport to correspond with your current entry stamp can put you into a visa overstay position if you were to exit near the 90 day mark and not obtain the stamp. So for example if you were in Brazil for nearly 90 days, crossed over to Argentina without getting your passport stamped and were to take a flight out of Argentina to some other nation, when you returned to Brazil the next time you would likely be charged an overstay fine because there was no way of proving that you didn't overstay your visa without that exit stamp. It is also quite likely they would charge you the maximum fine (100 days / R$8.28 per day) too.
If they don't stamp your passport automatically then INSIST because it is their duty to do so every time, not just sometimes.
Cheers,
James聽 聽 聽 Expat-blog Experts Team
As for Paraguay, I have no idea if the border is open, but I believe the taxi driver told me it was. Regardless - again more than a day get the stamp. I also know that the Paraguayan side of the border is not as safe as Foz do Igua莽u. The taxi driver from the airport to my hotel told me it was "lawless" exact words, and the taxi driver back to the airport told me it was okay but not recommended for tourists.
Take it for what it is. But in the end, please people Immigration/Migration is not a game or a joke - especially if you are a foreigner. Follow the law, not what you think you can get away with!
Full member nations:聽 Brazil / Argentina / Paraguay / Uruguay / Venezuela
Associate member:聽 聽 聽Chile / Peru / Columbia / Ecuador / Bolivia (in process of joining)
Cheers,
James聽 聽 聽 聽 聽Expat-blog Experts Team
can you elaborate on that please? I have the permanent residency and I got the RNE card written on it " Cedula De Identidade De Estrangeiro", does that mean I don't need a visa to visit the bellow mentioned countries? so I just travel there and show them the card or how does it work?
Regards,
Ahmad
The card you have (beige) with your RNE number on it is your C茅dula de Identidade Estrangeiro. If it is marked PEMANENTE under category, then you only need present that and your passport when visiting the countries mentioned. You do not need a visa.
Cheers,
James
thanks James, great to have you on the blog.
Ahmad
I have permanant visa of Brazil. From 24the November, 2015, all ``manual passports`` will be banned from travelling. The embassy of our country has yet no facility to prepare Machine Readable Passport for us, here in Brazil. I have manual passport. I want to visit another country. Can I get a Brazilian passport? I found some information about it on FP website. Is it true? click here...
矛t states: ao estrangeiro legalmente registrado no Brasil e que necessite deixar o territ贸rio nacional e a ele retornar, nos casos em que n茫o disponha de documento de viagem;
thanks!!
From what I understand from reading the DPF webpage you are correct, however the passport would be for a very limited period. You should check with the Passport Office of the same DPF Delegacy where you applied for permanency to make sure if you qualify for the passport and what you need to obtain it.
Cheers,
James聽 聽Expat-blog Experts Team
Thanks for sharing your wisdom!
It is never a good idea to overstay. It will probably cause you more problems when you come back. you will still be in the computer and no exit stamp It will appear that you never left and it will probably cost you more. You might even get permanently expelled. My advice is to Leave the proper way and pay the fine.
Jim
You can`t just go to Argentina. You will need a visa. As far as the Brazilian stamp in your passport. if you somehow avoid getting it. The next time you try to enter you will have problems. As I stated before the best thing you can do is exit properly pay your fine and get right. many people will try to advise you how to beat the system, but you can`t do it. You may end up being banned forever from Brazil.
jim
Usually after paying the fine you will have 72 hours to leave the country.聽
They don鈥檛 put any overstay stamp on your passport.聽
You might have some challenges with the embassy for your visa when you try and return to Brazil but there is only a 10 percent chance of something like that happening.
Brazil is not like the states, they are more laxxed and need people to return back often

Thank you, thank you!
Stanza is correct.聽 He has been chosen to give advice because he gives good advice. you can trust the advice given by him me and a few others. You hear many people try to give advice on how to beat the system. It's not worth it. This site is made up of serious individuals who only want to help people.
Jim
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