Opening a B&B ,suggestions or advice appreciated.
  Hal
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In a pinch naivety doesn't play in the courts, here or there.
If you still want to try it out, I suggest getting a job managing an existing property to learn the business with goal of potentially buying the business after you know what you are getting into.
Lately, there's been a lot of negativity on these forums. Some of it is a legitimate response to all the people with unreasonable expectations and silly ideas, but there are also those who simply don't want more people to discover this place. They moved here to get away from N. America or Europe, and now they don't want other gringos to follow in their footsteps.
My suggestion, is to get a 6 month visa and take your time touring the country. For me, it took a long time, visiting towns in the sierra, the coast, and the Oriente, before I felt like I was able to critically and accurately evaluate the business potential of different places.
jessekimmerling wrote:Lately, there's been a lot of negativity on these forums. Some of it is a legitimate response to all the people with unreasonable expectations and silly ideas, but there are also those who simply don't want more people to discover this place. They moved here to get away from N. America or Europe, and now they don't want other gringos to follow in their footsteps.
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Jesse, my comments were based on my wife's family owing a hostel in Quito. We sold the business because it happened to be on a valuable piece of land that an adjacent business wanted. The price of the land was 20 times what we could earn from the hostel (EBITDA). I do not believe owning a hostel is a good idea for a retired couple because they want to "stay busy and really enjoy meeting people" however suggested how they can make this decision on their own.
Please do not attempt to attribute my comments to a desire for others to make or not make Ecuador home any more than I would accuse you of being a shill for International Living.
Perhaps what you believe is negative is reality based on experiences of individuals that are more familiar with Ecuador. Lets let each individual reader be aware of alternative views.
jessekimmerling wrote:I have two suggestions, fdmcg. First, perhaps you should review the advice your are giving me and follow it yourself. Second, I suggest we both go our own ways and stop bothering each other.
agreed.
Congrats to you and your bride :-) Yes, I have a buddy who opened up a business, and I met with a legal advisor named Sara Chaca to do so. She got him all set up, registered as needed, good to go. If you want to contact her, this is her email address: sara@ecuadorvisas.com
Best of luck sir!,
Adam
jessekimmerling wrote:It's true, there is a lot of competition in pretty much every place that has any sort of tourism in Ecuador. That said, most of the local owned places do a terrible job of advertising to foreign tourists. Most places have no web site, terrible signage, and the low price places are often dark and moldy. In my opinion, there is still a lot of opportunity here, but it requires doing a bit of advertising and possibly working with and giving a cut to the tour agencies. Since both hiring labor, or contacting out services such as cleaning and laundry are super cheap here, there are certainly ways to lighten the load, so running a B&B can be a fun job and not overwhelming.
Lately, there's been a lot of negativity on these forums. Some of it is a legitimate response to all the people with unreasonable expectations and silly ideas, but there are also those who simply don't want more people to discover this place. They moved here to get away from N. America or Europe, and now they don't want other gringos to follow in their footsteps.
My suggestion, is to get a 6 month visa and take your time touring the country. For me, it took a long time, visiting towns in the sierra, the coast, and the Oriente, before I felt like I was able to critically and accurately evaluate the business potential of different places.
Very good advice. Also talk to other expats who have succeded in business.
Continually viewing the cup as half empty never helps with any kind of endeavor
Your comments about most of the hostels not being good at advertising to foreigner made me think of a business idea.
James designs web sites prototypes---you just got to the spaces and replace pics with pics, writing with writing... you get the idea.
With your internet cafe you and your wife could help local businesses set-up websites to attract guests.
Your wife could write the Spanish and you the English...
I think a small community newspaper distributed to local businesses promoting things.... really just an advertisement. Especially during high season would help too.
Judy
Just a thought.
Maybe someone could take some photos for them of the food... naw that would spoil the adventure...ha.
Most US travel agents went belly up when do it yourself online (travelocity.com)etc) started. But there are travel agents around who know the business.
I have in-laws working out of their house now that only stay open to keep medical insurance till age 65.(They owned business, building and parking lot and sold it to the State so they're not hurting)One of the things they do now is book the more "exotic" type vacations for people (individuals not tour groups) who want to get off the beaten path. I know also that they put together package deals with places that they go check out,take photos etc and then can offer for a good price. Mostly Mexico and Hawaii I think. Ecuador is probably not the idea of a vacation destination for the average joe.
I agree with Jesse about the importance of advertising to attract foreign tourists with money to spend. Places to stay would have to have have reasonable amenities or be high end
Sue
Having spent most of my working life in advertising and marketing, I might look into the idea when I'm there, but I'm really not planning to do much (if any) work.
Whether there would be enough work and whether it would pay enough to justify the effort is unknowable until it's tried. It might actually make a fun volunteer job, helping small businesses. Some at least of the bigger businesses understand the importance of marketing -- I've seen decent websites for big hotels and other tourist businesses.
All the best.
Vistamar
  Hal
  Hal
I immediately thought Oh it is Gringo Cocoa wow made with Real Whip Cream and Real cocoa wow and Milk wow in Gringo Hill what a wonderful Idea. I took one sip and could not swallow it that bad. Now I waited at the table for my friends Gringos so when they arrived. I was a cat...I said oh Cocoa want a sip I watched their face they jumped. The look of dissatisfaction was so funny. They acted like I poison them. Now I wonder who put the thought into this? They are on Gringo Hill who are their customers? What were they thinking? Hello...all the ingrediences they needed are in this country it just takes time. No thought.
With all the Ecuadorians going out of business here why aren't they thinking more. I don't get it don't they want to get busy are they afraid to succeed here? Will the gov hurt there chances here or something I just don't understand it. They are not lazy. I get it they want to close for 1/2 the day ok. But can't you serve the right thing? And why don't they hire a person like you???? They need help a lot.
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