Canadian-Libyan broohaha
Do you long-timers have experience/witness of similar collective punishments by Libya against citizens of a country they're made at?聽 I was told for example that my visa would take 4-6 months cause I'm American, but it only took a few weeks.聽
Should we be super worried, or concerned about not only his trip now, but our Thanksgiving and Christmas breaks?
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Does he already have his exit visa?聽 I am worried that they may tie our passports up in immigration for a year...
Who said they won't let him back in?聽 Was it the visa team at the company?
couple of my Canadian co-workers going on roataion/field break in a few days have been told the same...They can leave the country but they can't come back...It is one way ticket...
Please share if get any updates..
I have contacted the Canadian Embassy - I don't work so I have all day to keep on their butts til I get some answers.
I'll update once I hear more.
The Colonel does hold a grudge, there is no doubt about that.聽 Canadians are the new Swiss it seems.
They have also heard these rumors but have had no confirmed cases of denied re-entry reported by Libyan authorities or by Canadian citizens.聽 If you know someone who has been denied re-entry please have them call the embassy at +218 21 335 1633 to relay their story.聽 This would greatly aid their investigations I am sure.
The Canadian embassy is investigating these rumors currently and are planning to send out further information to all Canadians registered with the embassy by the end of the week.聽 If you are not registered go to the voyage.gc.ca site to get yourself registered as a Canadian abroad.
Let's keep each other updated as things develop.
They have also heard these rumors but have had no confirmed cases of denied re-entry reported by Libyan authorities or by Canadian citizens.聽 If you know someone who has been denied re-entry please have them call the embassy..."
So does this mean they won't do anything UNTIL someone is denied re-entry?聽 Isnt' it enough that Canadians are being told by company visa coordinators that re-entry is no longer garanteed?聽 So a Canadian goes on leave or a business trip out of Libya, the spouse, child and home and office still in LIbya, then we find out upon return that re-entry is not going to be allowed, THEN the Canadian embassy does something?聽 Is my husband, currently scheduled to leave on Wednesday for a 10 trip to states to take care of things at our house and his American citizenship hearing/test supposed to be the F**ing test case???
I'm working myself into a tizzy just writing this all down.
WTF!!!
just to add latest on the topic, i went to see HR department of my company and was informed that all movement regarding visas (either exit/reentry or family) is stopped for time being and will take some time to resolve. Now this "some time" is undefined so its wait and see situation at the moment.
it needs to be addressed at higher level (government).
the picture is unclear at the moment.
hope that canadian consulate is aware of the situation. i suggest that we should infrom them about individual situation
i was about to sponsor my family from canada and now i am told to wait.
it took a while to defuse the same type of situation, swiss episode.
lets hope it is resolved soon.
rgds
waqas
Not to mention his citizenship hearing/test.聽
Both can be rescheduled, but we really don't want another Michigan winter on our house's roof.
The story is unclear though there was a planned trip to Canada after the UN meeting in New York that was cancelled for undisclosed reasons.聽 Most of what I have heard is through the rumor mill but it seems we ruffled a few feathers in the Great White North by either 1) refusing the big guy entry all together or 2) planning on reprimanding him for the handling of Al-Megrahi's return.聽
Hope it all works itself out here relatively painlessly and quickly, (especially for Justice who needs to get things done ASAP).
NOC have been trying to muscle their way into nationalizing this minnow Canadian operator for a while now, and what with the recent changes at the top at NOC, the big man has started waving his big stick to try and get his way. IMO.
Something here which gives more backround:
And here:
I thought Verenex was all sewn up.聽 I had no idea it was ongoing still.聽 Very well could be a correct presumption on the role that deal is playing here Sandman.
Also of intrerest is PetroCanada's reluctance to commit to their huge 500 well development programme.....
justice4pal wrote:Should we be super worried, or concerned about not only his trip now, but our Thanksgiving and Christmas breaks?
Thanksgiving is today - it's probably too late to leave to celebrate.
We're talking American Thanksgiving - we get several days off and were planning R&R in Malta.
"Dear Madame,
Some Canadians have been contacting us recently over the situation regarding Libyan immigration, mainly exit and re-entry stamps, for residence visa holders. I appreciate receiving this information and we are working hard to distinguish between actual events and rumours that circulate on this subject. Please be aware that the Canadian Embassy is approaching the Libyan government and raising the issues that have been passed on to us from the Canadian community. We are seeking clarifications and assistance in getting the visa problems addressed.
Please note that we have not had anything official on this subject from our Libyan counterparts.
Best regards,"
That was it, (it wasn't even signed oddly enough).聽 It ain't much but I said I'd keep you posted.
My queries about this issue have resulted in the reponse that yes there are some murmurs about delays in issuing visas etc but nothing official has been sent to any govt. office in this regard.
During the Swiss problem an offcial document was sent to all relevant departments to cancel visas etc.
Regards
Lets see what happens with Siddiqui聮s exit re-entry聟聟Which will give us the clear pciture
This is all so damn unnecessary.
justice4pal wrote:Showing an uncharacteristicly optimistic behaviour, my husband packed for his trip to the states last night.聽 He's told me he needs the exit visa with re-entry stamped in his passport in time to leave for the airport by 12.聽 So I wait to see if he makes the journey or not.聽 I am worried though, that even with a re-entry, he could be refused entry upon returning.聽
This is all so damn unnecessary.
Unnecessary, yes.聽 But this is why they pay you expat wages - to help put up with this kind of stuff.
Is being here on an American passport really going to be that much better? Next week the US could be going through the same thing (plus paying US taxes on the income you make here).聽 The Dutch went through this earlier this year and it blew over after a few weeks.
"but this is why they pay you expat wages. To help put up with this kind of stuff."
???????
Excuse me??????!!!!! I don't even know where to start to reply.聽
I have been an expat at least one-third of my life - as a child of expats, as a young, single adult, and now as a wife and mother.聽 There are many reasons my husband and I choose to be expats and money is not and never will be the reason I will go overseas and then put up with this crap. There is not enough money ever in our current or projected income stream to compensate for this crap.
We will continue to put up with this mess not because we get the big expat bucks but for many other reasons. Exploration, adventure, seeing the world with other eyes, seeing myself and my country with other eyes, meeting Libyans and people from all over the world.聽 That's just a few reasons why we choose to stay here and will go onto other countries later.聽 There are many more.聽 So please do not assume that it's the "big expat bucks" that bring us and keep us here.聽
We get paid expat wages for lots of reasons, (homesickness for my home culture and putting up with men on the streets are usually uppermost in my list) but putting up with the arbitrary and capricious behaviour of a state entity that wants to be accepted into the community of nation states and global economy where such behaviour is not generally tolerated and favorably received is not one of them.
Libya wants to be involved in the world stage, but it has to decide if it wants to be the class clown or class disruptor, or the one who has the gravitas to make solid, deserved criticisms of the status quo and actions of other states. The world does need other voices and Libya could be part of that role, but I've yet to see it. This is not the way to make a point and be listened to with respect further down the road.
Finally, fyi, my husband is a US green card holder and therefore has to pay taxes anyway. As a citizen, he'll not have to keep traveling back to US to renew his green card status.聽 That's it.聽 Pure and simple.聽 (well, also, if a clown like Bush ever runs for office, my husband will be able to vote against him rather than rant and rave).
I agree, some expats aren't in it for the money.聽 But the reason for the mony is very clear.
The companies I've worked for pay higher expat benefits for more inconvenient places to live.聽 Most companies pay more in Lagos than say Kuala Lumpur.聽 聽
No need to get worked up.
BTW - I am very familiar with the US tax system.聽 You could also forfeit the green card, but I understand the reasons to keep it.
It took all of 4 days to get the process done.
So Canucks we have established we can get out - now let's see if we can get back in!!
Sorry didn't mean to be so strident sounding.聽
yeah forfeiting the green card is an option, but one we rejected.
Husband did not get out today.聽 He submitted his passport about 9 days ago.
justice4pal wrote:gabacho,
Sorry didn't mean to be so strident sounding.聽
yeah forfeiting the green card is an option, but one we rejected.
Husband did not get out today.聽 He submitted his passport about 9 days ago.
No problem.聽 I recognize I can be too direct sometimes and some sarcasm can be lost.聽 Also, as a Canadian, it's my duty to give you a hard time. 
I came in a few weeks ago on a "visit visa" but sponsored by my employer. This is valid for 3 months which I assume they will turn into my permenant residency... Is this correct? How long should this process take, and is this what is being held up (possibly) by whatever political gripes?
What is this about an exit-stamp... ?

SafiaD wrote:I'm sorry that I don't quite understand what this is about...
Unless you hold a Canadian passport, you should not be affected by this tiff.
I came in a few weeks ago on a "visit visa" but sponsored by my employer. This is valid for 3 months which I assume they will turn into my permenant residency... Is this correct? How long should this process take
Around 4-5 weeks for a straightforward application
What is this about an exit-stamp... ?
If you're a resident, you'll need an exit visa each time you want to leave the country. It's only valid for a single exit within 3 months.

Time to start drinking up the hooch reserves and bracing for deportation, lol.
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