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Shill88 wrote:

That's useful Fred. We have been using the same website too. It's the official numbers but a pity that it isn't really representative of the true situation.

All the numbers from all over the world are likely to be  massively inaccurate  as most only get mild symptoms so never test or report as suspected positives.
That'll be a mix of scared to test, not bothering because press hype makes it sound as if getting it is instant death but they only have a cold like thing, and unreported cases because the panic hadn't started at the time they were ill.

Shill88 wrote:

. I only get my information from the news and from talking to people on other sites about it.

The news and sosmed are highly reliable - NOT

- African rubbish

- Italian rubbish

- Rubbish from Malaysia

- Indonesia rightly arrest fake news fools in Indonesia

My kids' schools have parents' WA groups - both full of total rubbish, the latest being about a rat carried disease in China. Turns out only people in direct contact with rat dropping that don't wash their hands after being around it are in any danger - but that didn't stop some idiot spreading the story.
Still, a load of the fools on that group bought overpriced mail order handwash was it was still available locally at normal prices, so that's the sort of utter cretin we have to ignore.

Basically, believing news stories without checking is unwise, especially the nasty tabloids - believing the utter crap on social media is positively retarded.

However, if you want to read and believe it - go for it, but fake stories and panic spreading are unwelcome on here.

Gwmeath wrote:

Wives and partners etc here (expats finance it 🤪) have organised huge deliveries to several local orphanages food, clothing, toiletries, basic medicine, etc etc and its the same possibly 5/6 days for delivery

We did for an orphanage a couple of years ago, and that was about the same. It's good to see people helping out.

Fred wrote:

Gwmeath wrote:

Wives and partners etc here (expats finance it 🤪) have organised huge deliveries to several local orphanages food, clothing, toiletries, basic medicine, etc etc and its the same possibly 5/6 days for delivery

We did for an orphanage a couple of years ago, and that was about the same. It's good to see people helping out.

We usualy/ always do with BPJS money and whip rounds (ususlly happens when mabuk) especially around ramadan but only absolute if needed, as awful as it sounds they cant become reliant on us although they is a large wedge of cash its for absolute needs only, one or two have even had scholarships/ further education financed etc

Fred wrote:

A lot of places are doing IR thermometer, but not all. I've passed the local veggie man three days this week, and he's doing a great trade.
Local are skipping the markets in favour of guys like him.

These ir thermometers are grossly inaccurate and practically useless.

tiganasfx wrote:

Fred wrote:

A lot of places are doing IR thermometer, but not all. I've passed the local veggie man three days this week, and he's doing a great trade.
Local are skipping the markets in favour of guys like him.

These ir thermometers are grossly inaccurate and practically useless.

Most operators I've seen with them fumble about in a clueless sort of way so, regardless of anything else, that makes them a waste of time.
However, they are handy PR for the places that use them.

Gwmeath wrote:

You couldnt make this up if you tried, 🤔

Boris, the covid 19 PM of England and the other bits can take part if he's feeling well enough.
The leader of HM opposition probably wants to catch it in order to prove he can do what Boris can

scotocs wrote:

My wife has been ordering online with Hypermart and it seems it worked very well. Unfortunately, I can only say "it seems" as I am stucked in France right now while she is in Bogor with our boy... And I have no idea when I will be able to get back home.
I do believe that numbers in Indonesia are particularly innacurate so far as they certainly are in every country affected since it also depends on the ability to test  the population.
Nearly every country has been caught by surprise and underestimated what was going on.
All I know, is that now I wish I could fly back to Indonesia and be home but I do understand the policies adopted by countries all over the world...

Online is easy so she is unlikely to have any problems, and go-food is operating normally at the moment except for restaurants that have closed.
Testing appears to be very limited so numbers here, as everywhere else, are unreliable, but most seem to be getting a mild form and recovering with no need for a doctor. The long and the short is, as long as they have cash for food, they're a lot more than likely to be safe and well when you get back.

Banking apps are really handy to use as you can top up go-pay and pay bills for online shopping with ease if you want to avoid the shops altogether. However, shops are all but empty of people so there's minimal risk if she needs essentials. Every place I've been has been fully stocked so no shortages worth a mention.

illustration: The outbreak of the corona outbreak in Indonesia has undeniably made some people panic buying. (Roslan RAHMAN / AFP)

Then you check the picture and find it' also used to "illustrate" panic buying in a few other countries.




The truth for Semarang is here - and pretty much follows for everywhere I've been



No problems, however, we have to be careful of internet trolls, silly rumours on WA, and rubbish in what is supposed to be the news media.

Gwmeath wrote:

Ive just nipped out to work with some paperwork and handed to security, they is a large number of Army peronel moving around in vehicles, and when i say large i mean many hundreds, i pass 2 Malls and 2 trucks of army at each so roughly 40 ish at each Mall, so i presume either locally or nationally something is about to happen, airforce/ army chopper flying around also, police precence is large also, didnt realise we had so many, may just call into a Mall later to see if any procedures are in place

I hope there is not going to be anything serious happening Gwmeath. I would just advise expats to make sure they have enough stock of essential things. If I receive any news over here of major steps being taken by the government or the military I will certainly give it a mention.

Gwmeath wrote:

Ive just nipped out to work with some paperwork and handed to security, they is a large number of Army peronel moving around in vehicles, and when i say large i mean many hundreds, i pass 2 Malls and 2 trucks of army at each so roughly 40 ish at each Mall, so i presume either locally or nationally something is about to happen, airforce/ army chopper flying around also, police precence is large also, didnt realise we had so many, may just call into a Mall later to see if any procedures are in place

Where is this?