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MikaQ5 wrote:

Thank you for the聽 replies聽 guys

At the moment im thinking聽 of聽 possibly Da Nang聽 as a start base聽 , i like to be near the ocean with my dog etc

" but the stupidty much greater "聽 etc聽 -- good聽 summary聽 re the driving situation there v Thailand -- duly noted

And聽 Are聽 the cars聽 More聽 expensive聽 re Thailand聽 ? , i havent done a lot of research ( yet) , but the聽 few comparsions聽 i did i thought was聽 that Vietnam聽 was similar to slightly cheaper than Thailand 馃槩

Are聽 Audis Q5/3 s聽 sold聽 in聽 Vietnam ( and available聽 used聽 etc ) ??


Whats聽 a good search聽 site/ app聽 (with eng ideally聽 馃槉)聽 for聽 used聽 Suvs聽 - audi / bmw/ merc聽 or similar聽 quality聽 -

Some sites...Carmundi, Mua Ban(buy and sell) Cho Tot. You will need to write xe hoi or xe oto in the search. Best if you get a local to help you.

Zepo wrote:

This is definitely not the place to be if you're prone to road rage. I've learned to just slow down. Keeping my road rage in check is a daily struggle

hahaha聽 聽that includes walking along the streets Road Rage.

MikaQ5 wrote:

I ...聽 have some experience of driving in Asia , (and it was聽 nothing like the horror stories i had聽 heard before i first drove )

I have visited about half the Asian countries and, beyond climate and jungle, I find there are more differences than similarities. Thai auto drivers generally seem very law-abiding (yes excluding van drivers, reckless youth, etc). Almost like Singapore. Maybe due to better enforcement, but there is also a considerateness of Thai people that is realized when seeing them in orderly bus queues 70 people long at Victory Monument.

In Vietnam, there is no concept of queues, and motorbike riders do what they want as there is minimal moving vehicle traffic enforcement. The horror stories you heard were from countries like this and Indonesia. Cars in the city usually aren't driven dangerously, but the motorbikes take such risks that the cars must creep along out of fear of collision. Extreme defensive driving.

I have never driven a car in Vietnam, live in Saigon, but would consider driving only if I lived in a smaller place like Da Nang where the main roads are wide and uncongested. Riding a motorbike in the rain with a passenger while carrying bags of groceries is not fun.

gobot wrote:

Never seen a sidecar here.
Too bad tuktuks are illegal.
Dogs go under ... living near a park, I've seen this many times.

http://i.imgur.com/w1PJlF2.png

Dogs go under - the wheel you mean聽 ??

I could imagine that -聽 i just carried my boxer聽 home on聽 a scooter , and thats the position she settled into ( as per your photo ) - but its not聽 safe

Only reason i tried it tonight - We are on a quiet thai聽 island , almost no traffic , distance聽 1 km -聽 but i wont do聽 it again , not worth the risk聽 - damm sure聽


So -- no side聽 cars聽 in聽 Vietbam聽 either ??

MikaQ5 wrote:

I could imagine that -聽 i just carried my boxer聽 home on聽 a scooter , and thats the position she settled into ( as per your photo ) - but its not聽 safe

Only reason i tried it tonight - We are on a quiet thai聽 island , almost no traffic , distance聽 1 km -聽 but i wont do聽 it again , not worth the risk聽 - damm sure.

I think that everyone who moves from a modern western country to a 'developing country' (a p.c. euphemism) makes some adjustments to their previous notions of personal safety. It is a culture shock. To us, people here seem to take so many risks. Water quality, food preparation, workers in construction, motorbike riding with families of 5, etc. Risks that we see as easily preventable and illegal in the west, as accepted as normal practice here. Some say the value of life is cheaper in the third world. I think it is more about simply surviving with less money. Safety equipment, shopping at markets with refrigeration, owning a larger vehicle, are luxuries that would hurt the families' standard of living. It is a tradeoff between a certain loss of money in being marginally safer, vs taking personal risks for consequences which will probably never happen.

Growing up in California, I see now how life there is so over-regulated. Every traffic intersection has a signal, stop sign, or (rarely because this verges on anarchy) a yield sign. Citizens demand government repair sidewalks and trim trees lest somebody gets injured. Work safety laws, child safety laws. You can sue the government for not protecting you. You don't have to take any responsibility. It is the government's fault for everything.

I appreciate the freedoms here. And, because 'when in Rome', I notice I take more risks, I adapt, but in a calculated way. My choice because my responsibility.

whew that was long!

herbj wrote:

Biggest difference between riding in Thailand and Vietnam is the side of rode. Right side.聽
Then there is the whoever is in front has right of way - so bikes coming out from homes and side streets are annoying.
The latest law change has been removal of any added rear bumper.聽 No additional front bumper was already a law.

Well,no unless there is a traffic sing it is normal "right of the way" rule.聽 They just choose not to obay rules.. and they pay for it sometimes with their lives...
and about bumpers this has been case long.. and it is hassle to change them always to have the road worthy inspections 馃檲 Can't even change wheel size... legally... and police hardly ever give tickets about those