Bank question...and a rather dumb one
Only problem is, after the fact, doubts set in and I wondered if my overconfidence in my Spanish had failed me - and I had unwittingly agreed to allow another person to have full access to my account. Yes, you can laugh.
I signed almost all the papers, whereas he only signed a couple of papers in the end (which I should have perused more closely), along with producing his DIP (bank made copies of), and answering a couple of questions about his work and where he lived...so for the most part it was me sitting in the hot seat in front of the bank officer answering all questions, while he was behind in the rows of other seats, so no joint account vibe there.
And I'm not in too deep at this point (about $50), so of course I will ask the bank directly if he has access, and if he does, change the person to someone else whom I trust more, etc....but...what do you think? Lol. I may be a gormless gringa at times, but ultimately a fast learner. Please advise before I return there to pick up debit card, etc. - and potentially make a bigger fool of myself.
And don't try to sell me any swamp land, just yet.
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BJ
That said, when I was first here I had my residency but was waiting for my DPI. The banks said "you need your DPI to open an account". COLUA, a "credit union" was the amazing exception. They realized I had residency and a paper that said my DPI was applied for and they let me open an account. They were "there to help" and I will never forget this.
to have a legal entity you don't need to have a dpi as a tourist you can own shares of a Guatemalan C Company.
Colua let you open without a DPI maybe because they are not a bank but a cooperative and their rules might be less stringent than a real bank.
* You have pensionado *residency*, not a visa. Calling it a visa could confuse someone.
* The deposit limit you are talking about is for cash. You can deposit a check or receive a wire transfer for any amount.
Also, bank wire fees vary all over the place. They tend to be expensive in the U.S. because they are not the norm. I pay $40 to my U.S. Credit Union for such a transfer but fees for European banks tend to be in the €6 range. BankRural and COLUA have never charged me fees for receiving a wire transfer. COLUA (a "credit union") banks with Banco G y T. G y T seems to do OK with U.S. dollars but BanRural does not. For example, you cannot get a U.S. $ cashier's check at either branch in Panajachel and only at one in Sololá.
Within Central America there is a new system for money transfers. I don't remember the name of it (as I remember, a 4-letter abbreviation) with very low fees. If you are going to do a transfer within the region, ask about it as an alternative to a traditional wire transfer.
As for using Cajeros (ATMs), your warnings are right on -- but, of course this is nothing unique to Guatemala or the region.
First, it is unlikely a bank will let you "independently" open a bank account. They will tell you that you have to have your DPI. I went through this when I had residency but was waiting for my DPI. The exception was COLUA, a "credit union". I talked to Carlos, the branch manager in Pana, and he said as it was clear I had my residency they would let me open an account at that time. COLUA was amazingly helpful on lots of things. I highly recommend them if you are in their "area".
As for which RENAP office, just go to the one closest to where you live/are going to live.
As for interest rates, I would suggest it worth your time to look into bank stability, capitalization and lending policies. The maximum government insurance on a bank account is not very much -- I am thinking a few thousand Quetzales so making sure the bank is stable is far more important. Again, I recommend COLUA, they offer CDPs (when we bought one for my daughter it was at something 4.25%) and they look financially good with a 50 year history.
Anyone know what banks are paying on deposits?
Thanks
D
What are the main reasons to open an account in Guatemala? Would using another off shore bank card be a problem?
Thanks

The relationship/differences between a bank and COLUA is the same as the bank/credit union relationship in the U.S. Credit unions are basically member owned. Accounts are only for individuals. They loan to members. To do "banking" they have to work with a bank. For example, if you wire money to them, you actually wire it to a bank (in there case, G y T Continental) where it is deposited in their account and then they credit you.
As for plastic, all so much is done with cash here so the reason you want to bank here is so you can get cash. While there are ATMs (called Cajeros) there are sometimes problems with using foreign cards and, in general, transaction fees.
Related, the limit on converting cash of some other flavor to Quetzales has just been lowered to US$2000/month. The definition of cash includes transfers between a US$ and Quetzal account. But, that limit does not apply to checks or wire transfers. So, for example, you could deposit a check for say $5000 into your Quetzal account. (The reason for this limit is to prevent money laundering.)
is there any benefit to having an attorney open a bank account for you?
Thanks for your expertise and time

I doubt an attorney could open an account for you as you need to show your DPI and sign the forms. And, in general terms, there is really no reason to even have an attorney involved in anything unless it is a legal document which must be notarized.
Note that if you don't have a DPI yet, you will need "someone" with a DPI to effectively be your representative. They don't have any rights to your account -- it is just required so there is a "Guatemalan legal entity". If I needed that person, I would probably have picked my favorite waitress. In my case, COLUA accepted a copy of the paperwork that said I had residency rather than making me wait for my DPI.
Regarding COLUA, they serve the Lake Atitlan area but are a membor of a country-wide organization of financial cooperatives called MICOPE. () I believe their web page lists the various member cooperatives throughout the country. (I say "I believe" as their web site is down right now.)
sorry for interrupting and for being off topic a couple of minutes.
@nicafyl, have you already registered your blog in our ´ó¿§¸£ÀûÓ°Ôº directory ?
Regarding your B&B, I invite you to register it in our business directory under the guesthouse section (/en/business/centr … esthouses/) you'll be the first one and you can register for free

Thanks
Julien
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