Want to know the good and not so good about Panama before relocating!!
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We love living here, and for someone who has lived 'off grid' you will find living here easy!
There are so many areas to chose from, Beach, Mountains etc.聽 There are some stunning properties and lots available.
We have chosen to build a home here, about 30 minutes from the main Ex Pat town of Coronado, we wanted to be close enough to shops/Restaurants etc. but do not have any desire to live in a busy community or a city!
Where we have chosen is about 5 degrees cooler in temperature and is tranquil, with lovely hilly views and 10 minutes from our favourite beach.
Hard things about living here have been the language barrier especially in construction, we are reasonably able to speak Spanish now but it is a must if you want anything done!
Things work on a very slow pace and reliability is poor, but when you come to terms with those issues, living here is wonderful, the people are fun, friendly and happy ;-)
Cost of living here is not cheap and is rising, so renting/buying outside of the main towns is much cheaper and so is the cost of living.
I am sure if you come for a visit you will fall in love with it, there really is such diversity here...good luck!
Thank you for all the information.聽 We don't think we would like to live in PC - we are not city people.聽 However, we think we would like to live in a small town, where the temperatures are comfortable (not cold or too hot) where we could walk to shops and restaurants.聽 We plan our first visit in March.聽 Looking forward to it.
HLakers
It is hard to say what is good and not so good because what bothers one person may not bother another.
I do agree with the recommendations to learn Spanish though so you won't be limited to areas known for expats.
HLakers wrote:Thanks, we'll take a look when we come in March.聽 Any recommendations where we could stay (not too expensive) while looking and is it a good idea to book before arriving at that time of year?
I don't really like the constant traffic jams, getting home from work is an adventure everyday. What I do like is the countless job offers for anybody! The economy is also great and we have access to everything either local or imported. The malls are big enough and modern, the nights are pretty much as the day. . All services still opened and the city itself full of activities.聽 There are many national parks here where you can enjoy nature.
We have found so many things here in Panama that have been lost in our home country.聽 We love Christmastime.聽 The Christmas decorations are popping up all over the city.聽 The malls are spectacular.聽 I have not seen decorations of this quality in the US in over twenty years.聽 Three gigantic Christmas trees highlight the Multiplaza Mall.聽 There are many more decorated trees and displays throughout the mall.聽 Individual stores have their own special themed displays that coordinate with their inventory.聽 The PC police have not arrived in Panama yet so there is a Nativity scene.聽 Christmas music plays overhead.聽 Even the Do-It-Center hardware store has two beautiful Christmas tress near the checkouts.聽 The stores in the mall are fantastic, modern, familiar, and the service is almost too good.聽 Panama has Black Friday shopping, just like in the US.聽 The stores are so well organized that there were roped waiting lines outside the stores to prevent overcrowding.聽
Meeting people has been easy.聽 We just walk our dog and meet our neighbors. Neighbors and strangers have been willing to help with any questions we have.聽 Taxi drivers in the city are great.聽 Some are just taxi drivers, but some are entertainers, tour guides, or even Spanish teachers.聽 The staff in our building feel like family.
I really have nothing bad I can say about Panama.聽 I love it here.聽 The minor negative things are outweighed by the positives.
We're from Calgary, Canada, and have been in Boquete since August and are staying til April '15. We spent a month in Panama City and found it too hot, humid and noisy to consider living there. Still, it's an amazing place to visit and we want to see more of it at another time. Boquete (half hour by taxi; northeast of David) is at higher elevations, so while it is rainforest, is much more comfortable temps for our northern blood! (in fact, it feels a bit like a little BC town, in our humble opinion) Need Spanish?? I second the thoughts already presented below... There have been some negatives, the main one for me has been the 'chitras', and the coffee bugs, which seem to be the local 'no seeums', who love to bite me!!... the first couple months were sheer misery, as my skin overreacted abysmally. It all seems to be settling down now (not sure if it's because we're leaving wet season or if I'm finally adapting) but definitely have repellent til you know how you respond. (I've seen practically no mosquitos the whole time we've been here, but apparently coastal areas are afflicted)... But seriously, it's beautiful here and the folks are friendly. Is it cheaper? Well, it's a set of tradeoffs vs expectations. Boquete's definitely cheaper by BC/Alberta standards, but Panama is locked in to US currency and you know what the CND $ is doing in that regard! As kristc99 has mentioned, locating in the outer areas is cheaper but you will def need a vehicle in that case; the main 'negative' to prices is how popular the place IS w expats, so that drives the prices up compared to some of the more outlying areas. We have a one bedroom furnished house on a large lot for $750 month longterm, includes propane, electricity, internet. That's kind of a median price. There are cheaper available, but this house fits our 'sweet spot' for some amenities we are loath to do without. It's also close enough into town we can walk most places. I won't lie, there's a learning curve to living here, but we keep meeting amazing people and we get what we need.... that's just a glimpse... hope it helps!
A lot of expats live in the area of Coronado, which is a short drive to the city, with a lot of Gringo infrastructure . Others like Boquete, in the mountains with a more temperate climate, it would be similar to Vancouver island, but warmer. Everything grows there. But again its not for every one. For me there are far too many Gringos, and it is much more expensive that where I live, in Los Santos. It wouldn't be fair not to mention Bocas, when my son and his girlfriend visit (they are 34) we always go there. A great place to party, and awesome beaches, but not for me. You will have to travel and experience it all for yourself.
Please do yourself a favor, and don't buy the first place you fall in love with. I've seen too many people do just that, and then discover that its not the right fit.
The biggest pet peeve any of my friends have is the garbage, but you get used to it. Where I live, we get together regularly and clean the beach together, now even some of the Panamanians come out to help. So its getting much better.
One more thing, before you buy, please do your homework, too many people come down to Panama, and over night they are real estate experts.
If you ever make it to Los Santos, and playa Uverito, you can find me by asking the locals or gringos for the the guy that carves the driftwood. You will be welcome to drop by for a coffee.
Good luck with your new adventure
HLakers wrote:Thank you for all the information about living in Bouquete.聽 This is the first time I've heard about the coffee bugs - good to know.聽 We're hoping to find a rental place near Boquete in the spring.聽 We don't need a lot of space but do want a kitchen so we can cook, hot water for showers and the internet for communicating.聽 We are also hoping to keep the price down because of our Canadian dollar.聽 If you know of a place like this, please let us know.
sometimes as low as U$ 3 (three) per day
car rental insurances are very expensive
these are daily insurance rates for the smallest vehicles from major car rental companies
supplemental liability insurance $16.99
supper damage waiver $18.45
it's important to have good coverage
because it's very likely things break or fall off these cheap asian cars
and you will be made responsible for any damage
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