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Finally ready to move!

StephanT

After 5 months of preparations and introducing myself here, I am finally ready to go!

I do have a few questions which I think I won't be able to 'google'.


a) private healthcare - in Spain, there are (relatively unknown) clinics called 'american clinics' where private healthcare is delivered at very low prices and very high quality compared to private healthcare in the UK or France. Is there something similar around Budapest?

b) dogs. I have 2 large (50kg dogs) that are being transported by car to the country. I read the threads about ticks - is it fair to say that as long as they take their anti-parasites they will be fine or do i need to take special precautions?

c) I have a rough idea of where i'll be thanks to estate agents, but to be 100% safe - what are the more 'expat friendly' neighbouroods Budapest?

d) I don't want to upset anyone, but I have to ask this, because it's never going to be on google: is the country relatively 'stable' given the war nearby? are there any rumors about an extension of the conflict floating around? If i'm not allowed to ask, feel free to disregard my question.


Thank you!

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helenmitchell378

its safe here i lived here  3 years im in a small village everyone has been nice and helpful as regards the war i think its a risk almost anywhere Russia is opening lots of shops in Hungary  200 call mere one could say Hungary has a relationship with Russia . As regards dogs and ticks we give a tablet each month and not had one tick on the 3 dogs . health care i broke my ankle had to go to the local hospital and just paid 25000 ft for xray and treatment     

helenmitchell378

But there are private clinics in Budapest such as Ars Medica, Duna Medical Center, Medicover etc... but as I said you can use any hospital if you pay the fees which is not expensive (it would be much more expensive in private clinic) or an other option is to pay NI in Hungary which is about 8000 HUF/month then you have all treatments for free.

People around Budapest keep themselves to themselves, do not really care about neighbours.

Marilyn Tassy

Hungarian national health coverage now costs 11,300 per month.

IDK if other EU counties would honor your NH from your home country or not.

In my case,married to a Hungarian, I had to cover my own private health insurance for the first year of being a resident. I am from the US and considered as a 3rd country person.

After the first year I was allowed to start paying out of pocket for TAJ coverage. National health care.

Even with private insurance most times if anything complicated health wise should happen, they send you to a gov. hospital for care.

There are private clinics but they do not usually take on risky cases, just simple ones.


Pets, IDK, have not had a pet in years. I personally would not bring my dog here but  then again, it  is part of your family so adjustments have to be made.

I see in the past few years they have so many pet stores all around, selling top name foods and everything for their care.

Years ago it was not like that, they would give chicken feet to dogs as a snack.

I remember when my SIL visited us in Ca. in the late 1970s. Took her into a US grocery store and she freaked out seeing the many different rows of pet food and supplies offered in the states. She told me even people in Hungary do not have such a selection of foods, times have changed.


Housing, we live in a normal HU neighborhood in the 7th district.


I would guess the more you pay in rent they better the hood would be.

Most newbies to Budapest with limited income seem to move to areas like the 8th district. On the Buda side it costs a bit more and is suppose to be more posh.

Never know though, some people have more money then brains and no matter how much you pay you could be stuck living next to a trouble maker.

Not a popular thing to say but if you do not speak Hungarian you will be treated a bit differently. I have experienced that many times all over in different situations. From my doctor asking me if I was a HU citizen before treatment to just yesterday in a farmers market, if they hear English being spoken be sure the prices will be slightly higher for you.

Marilyn Tassy

I forgot you are bringing over 2 large dogs.

That may limit your choices in renting.

Not many land lords want 2 dogs in their flats.

I know, we rented a nice condo in Honolulu but after the 4 months our Doberman was let out of quarantine, we had to move because he was too large to be excepted in the condo.

We actually moved to the Big Island to afford a large house with 40 acres of land for him to run around in.

I personally think it is cruel to have a large dog and expect them to live in a small flat.

They are going to charge extra for your pets for sure if they are willing to have them.

fluffy2560


    After 5 months of preparations and introducing myself here, I am finally ready to go!I do have a few questions which I think I won't be able to 'google'. a) private healthcare - in Spain, there are (relatively unknown) clinics called 'american clinics' where private healthcare is delivered at very low prices and very high quality compared to private healthcare in the UK or France. Is there something similar around Budapest?b) dogs. I have 2 large (50kg dogs) that are being transported by car to the country. I read the threads about ticks - is it fair to say that as long as they take their anti-parasites they will be fine or do i need to take special precautions?c) I have a rough idea of where i'll be thanks to estate agents, but to be 100% safe - what are the more 'expat friendly' neighbouroods Budapest?d) I don't want to upset anyone, but I have to ask this, because it's never going to be on google: is the country relatively 'stable' given the war nearby? are there any rumors about an extension of the conflict floating around? If i'm not allowed to ask, feel free to disregard my question.Thank you!        -@StephanT


Health:


Assuming you are a French citizen, you can get an EHIC card and then you can get treatment like a local on a temporary basis.  What's temporary?  Quite a long time - years.  But it depends how old you are really and if you have existing conditions.   They won't refuse you, they'll just treat you on the same basis as locals.   


You don't need another insurance policy like 3rd country nationals as a EHIC is more than sufficient. 


If you are at retirement age and in receipt of another EU state pension then you can apply to be enrolled in the HU healthcare system.  You will be enrolled without too much of a problem and more or less automatically. You need form S1 to show the HU healthcare authorities/fund.


If you work in Hungary, your employer will enrol you in the HU healthcare system and give you a "TAJ" (healthcare) card.


If you are below retirement age, do not have a job, then you will find it very difficult to enrol in the state system.  In this case, you can only rely on the EHIC card.   There are other routes to pay voluntarily but it's complicated and depends how you try to do it. 


One theory is that you can get a temporary job to get you into the system.   It's a very strange business. 


Dogs:   


We use a tick collar - name of it is Foresto.  It lasts about 3 months and seems to work.  It's quite expensive, 15K HUF if I remember correctly.   Ticks are everywhere, even in gardens now.  That was never the case before, they were in the forest but now our dog and cat get ticks from the garden.  They are easy to remove with a pair of tick tweezers. If I were you, I'd get European Pet Passports from your vet. Then you can prove your doggies had the anti-rabies vaccine and all the other doggy vaccines and is chipped.   We have one for our dog and one for the cat as well. 


War:


There's no war in Hungary.  The front line is like 700 km away.   That said, and you said you didn't want to offend anyone,  the politics for the past 5 years, maybe more like 7 or 8 years has been obviously more poisonous than it's ever been. 


There will be mistakes and missiles will probably cross the border like they do in Poland.  But I doubt Hungary is even on Putin's radar despite the PM's support.  If Putin was going to attack, it'd probably from Belarus towards Kaliningrad.   


We're lefty liberals and we don't fit in at all with the stupidity of some our Hungarian neighbours or even fascist factions of the wider HU family.  Some of these people have nostalgia for Soviet occupation and communist times.  It generally makes me want to throw up knowing people actively support the incumbent PM and that wannabe guy across the water in the USA not-so-Teflon Don.   


So we're unhappy about it and we're hoping for change.   Our kids all want to leave Hungary.  Don't blame them.   Meanwhile, we support Zelensky, NATO and Ukraine.