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toonarmy9752 wrote:

Gozo is very small but lovely and very very quiet, it is cheaper to rent and many things are much cheaper than here in Malta. the thing you may need to consider is travel times as you must always use the ferry and that adds between 30-50 mins on to any journey to malta and airports each way. ferry prices are 4.95e for foot passeneger or if driving its 15e for car and driver or foc if you have kartanzjan.

we were recently over there and were talking to a barman who lives there and he was saying you can rent a one bed apartment for about 120e per month, a penthouse for about 260-300e per month and a fully kitted farmhouse with pool etc for about 500e....maybe george can clarify these rates.

I have some other questions about Gozo as i think the rental prices will fit me in the beginning, when my company have more income i can quit the apartment after 6 months or something and move on to a better apartment.

But the question, is it as simple as on Malta island to get Internet and stuff like that?

I seen some small apartments with 聙175 each month in rent.
In Sweden we have to pay like 聙500 for a small apartment.

聙200 each month would be a great start apartment for me.

And i dont mind in the beginning not living in the big town, i can take the ferry like once a week to see town. But i guess Gozo have something also to offer?

And how much is cost of the tv-license in Malta? i read somewhere 聙34.40, is that per year i hope?

pauljd70 wrote:

Hi all,聽 just to add my input. If you want a realistic impression of what you monthly ammountbin will be, I dd this and researched via family etc this year:
Rent: 500
Cellphone 50
Elec 200
Groceries 400
Gas 30
Internet 50
Personal 400
Bus 28

So a minimum really of about 1658 to 1700. Much less than that and I think you will be living a very austere life and it won't be much fun.

Also rent is normally, 1 month, plus 1 month deposit, plus 50% (rent) brokers fee with VAT of 18% on that brokers fee.. E.g if your rent was 500 you would pay 500 + 500 + 250 + ( 18% of 250)

Hope this helps

id say you were heavy on the mobile,and electric/water internet and gas but then it depends on the service and usage that you expect and what you have used to calculate it on.

we are a family of three.....and聽 we live well on less than that

lambada wrote:

1500 / month,聽 regardless of whether it's gross or net, will be quite a struggle to survive on if you're 4 ppl. Once your wife starts working you should be ok though.

Ahh yea, it is 1500 net, forgot to write that. Is that with the apartment covered and everything taken into consideration? I have read somewhere that if I work and pay taxes/social security/etc then both me and my wife would be covered by health insurance, that leaves only the kids. We do not own a car either, so that is one less thing to worry about.

Also, checking the salaries and I did see that 22 000 euro yearly is considered a fairly good income compared to Maltese average salaries? Or am I looking at old data?

coxf0001 wrote:

Hi, I am a family of four, me and 3 children. Expats in Malta seem to fall into 2 categories, those that earns loads, way above the normal Maltese wage and then the rest of us.
I would/am striving to earn less than what you will earn by going back to uni. At present, I live on a third of your wage. We survive, it's not great and is hard sometimes, so to hear that 2000 euro a month is going to be a struggle, begs me to wonder, what the heck people spend their money on!!!

I love a thrifty woman....... 聽 But seriously, I think you've hit the nail on the head with this.It is the most oft asked question on all expat forums and the one with the most ambiguous answers as well. We know it's Horses for Courses', however, it would be quite simple for someone to put the 'basics' together (with a spread for different tastes) and leave the balance of income entitled 'personal'. For example:

Rent: 300 - 600
Elec/Water: 80 - 100
Gas:聽 60 - 80
Internet: 25-30
1 Mobile: 20 - 40
Health: 50 - 80
Groceries: equivalent spend in UK
Personal:聽 Whatever is left (cut your cloth)
Questions about specifics, ie Schooling etc can then be addressed separately and added to any calculation.

Of course I have just taken these figures from the top of my head and are not given as advice to anyone reading this - a more comprehensive and up-to-date generalisation could be made by anyone willing to put some figures together bearing in mind current Maltese market rates.

You sure are made of hardy stuff cox0001 and regardless of circumstances I bet your children are having a wonderful time. Buy them some socks for Christmas to show them how much you love them..........

coxf0001 wrote:

Lol, yes the socks and I must make sure they are not offensive!!

I've been here a few years now and live more like the Maltese do. We live on pasta and the sauces are home made, I make home made pies, in fact, most things are from scratch.

I moved here to keep things simple and to give the kids a better life and you can't beat taking the kids to the beach with some tasty hobz bizjet, some iced water (and a couple of lagers for me!)

As you said Mike, economics should be based on the essentials. Rent, water/electric and rates (not here.) What is left is your choice to do what you want with and I think most people would agree over here, you have money left at the end of the month. That's rare. In the UK you're hard pushed to have money spare at the end of the month, so it doesn't matter if you can buy t-shirts for a pound in Tesco, if you don't have the money left at the end of the month to buy it!

I have one more year left of my degree....Then I will have loads to spend on socks!

and more lagers for the beach.................bugger the essentials.

MovingToTheMed wrote:

You know the thing I go on about the most (as I look out of my window at the rain) to any one that'll listen is that from August 25th I'll never have to wear socks again!!聽 聽 (perhaps an exaggeration?)

lol, you'll be wearing socks to bed in winter!

Someone (Maltese) once told me years ago, that because my nose was cold (in winter) I should wear socks...I've never looked back!

coxf0001 wrote:

lol, you'll be wearing socks to bed in winter!

Someone (Maltese) once told me years ago, that because my nose was cold (in winter) I should wear socks...I've never looked back!

Sage advice, if not a little depressing - socks to bed! Very romantic聽