Drivers license validity
Are there any rules to be followed in that matter...? I have read about expats getting their licenses swapped for Ecuadorian ones...
Any info much appreciated...
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Thanks very much for taking time and posting valuable info...聽

If a Police stops a car, always, always the drivers hands him:
License
Registration
SOAT (basic insurance)
If the driver is a expat or a foreign or "gringo looking" they does not ask anything else, they dont ask for visa or passport or ecuadorian license.
Why?
They assume the driver is a tourist. They assume the car is rented. So, why to have a ecuadorian license if the driver is going to stay, lets say 3months?
I know a person who have been in Ecuador since 2009 and his gringo license works perfect everytime in police check points.
Now, I will highly recomend get the ecuadorian license. A trick would not last forever.
Neil

We hand him the money under the license or under the registration, so its out of the view.
That never happen to me, hope I will be able to do it right!
My husband got stopped when he was ridding a motorcylce that had the (Ecuadorian border) permit expire (hope my broken english is working in this explanation) He did not offer money, he just beg.. haha
He said: Por favor, por favor, por favor, yo regreso moto a Peru 1 semana (broken spanish)
Please, I will send the bike back to Per煤 in 1 week.
The Police said: Vaya, vaya! (go, go!)
Dont you think guys, Police in Ecuador are much nicer/kind/respectfull than other countries?
chrisf29 wrote:Haha? Sorry, I don't think bribing cops is cute. Just get your ecua-license already, it's not that hard.
Ok, it is a bit of a hassle getting all the papers, but way ahead of taking the class.聽 I did it here in Cuenca and the person at ANT was very helpful.聽 And by the by, attempting to bribe a law enforcement official is a felony (delito).聽 Conviction can result in prison and/or deportation.聽 Of course such an experience might be just the ticket to end your memoirs about your time in Ecuador.
Mike
chrisf29 wrote:Haha? Sorry, I don't think bribing cops is cute. Just get your ecua-license already, it's not that hard.
I'm afraid, though, that this puts those of us who are trying to raise our Cultural Sensitivity Quotient in a bind. We are told by our betters that we must adopt Ecuadorian ways or else be labelled Ugly Gringos. If the Ecuadorian practice is to bribe the cops, then shouldn't we join in and do the same?
Bob, removing tongue from cheek
I think is common fr ecuadorians to bribe the cops.. But, I have noticed something:
Ecuadorian Police are nice people (at least, much nicer than the one up north) They are not hidding in a dark spot waiting someone make a mistake. They go everywhere with the ligths on like saying: Im comin guys!! Be good! Im coooming!!!
They dont really want to stop anybody. If they stop someone they expect us to have all our paperwork together. If we did something wrong they will say: Did you realize that... yadayada?
So, depending of how bad is the mistake there is chance to "negociate" with the Police in order to let you go, the fine, taking the vehicle or whateverer.
If the Police has a checkpoint will be much difficult to negociate anything. Like in Cuenca, they put a radar in Loja Av and in just 1 morning they catch 30 people for speeding. I bet too many people was watching and even if someone tried to negociate could be very difficult for them let someone go.
It always depend. I have never negociate anything with any Police because I try to have everything in order, dont speed and be nice.
My husband friend told me that few months ago (my husband and him, before we met) they were traveling to Salinas, my husband was speeding and the Police stop them in the "peaje" so, my husband麓s friend got out of the car, negociate with the Police and come back running and saying: Get into the car!!! Hurry up, lets go, lets go!!!
By negociate I mean: Ask as a favor, or giving a "tip"
Don't know what your plans are for a bike. I am picking up a BMW Daker in Colombia. Most bikes here are in the聽 125/250 cc range. 650 Yammi's and Suzuki's are available, but kinda聽 spendy. And, there is a Royal Enfield dealer here in Cuenca. ( 500 cc )
Luckily, the guys I ride with have an emergency room doc in the group. Always handy!
Rubber Side Down
Sounds similar, riding 50plus years, advanced track instructor for 15 years, most of the time we have an EMT who is one of the more crazy of the group.聽 I can live with 500 plus cc, but prefer liter sport tourers .
We will have to stay in touch as plans come together, nothing better then friends who appreciate two wheels, curves and the great outdoors:)
聽 I am Canadian but spent 5 years in California for college and I used my Canadian licence.聽 I got a few tickets and they were evidently sent up to Canada ...but their were no tickets waiting for me.
I was just in Thailand for a year.聽 Got a ticket, a huge accident ....and having a local DL was never even asked for or discussed by the police or insurance.聽 I even got insurance with my foreign DL.
聽 All the same goes for Japan, Philippines, Cuba, and on and on....
聽 Now,聽 this is not to say that all of your experiences will be the same but it has been my experience that a foreign DL is probably too much for a cop to deal with and there's nothing in it for them(and it never hurts to only speak English because in some countries the police officer may not speak English and be embarrassed about this like when I was in Taipei)聽
聽 You may have the odd cop who may try to scare ya to get some "tip"聽 ....聽 Foreign DL and insurance seems to do the trick .聽
聽 Again , getting a local DL would be a good idea for valuable peace of mind also.聽 You never know when or why my experience may not become your own.聽 聽

Getting the Ecuadorian license using your foreign license to avoid ding dong school is a bit of a pain, but not overly burdensome.
Mike
I found the requirements for the ecuadorian driver麓s license.
You only need original and copies of:
Passport
Visa
Your driver麓s license
Cedula
And you need:
Aprove the drivers test (a list of 215 questions) they take 20 questions by random
Get a eye test (in the Trasit Agency)
Get a doc from a ecuadorian hosp that show your blood type. They dont want you to say what is your blood type, they want a doc that show it.
More info:
I suggest that everyone get the ecuadorian driver麓s license if you are driving your own car.
No speak spanish is not going to stop a cop of taking your car away or sending someone to jail.
Cops in Ecuador are kind and helpfull, but anyway, better get things straight than having a pain in your... (you understand)
I found the requirements for the ecuadorian driver麓s license.
You only need original and copies of:
Passport
Visa
Your driver麓s license
Cedula
And you need:
Photo
Aprove the drivers test (a list of 215 questions) they take 20 questions by random
Get a eye test (in the Trasit Agency)
Get a doc from a ecuadorian hosp that show your blood type. They dont want you to say what is your blood type, they want a doc that show it.
More info:
I suggest that everyone get the ecuadorian driver麓s license if you are driving your own car.
No speak spanish is not going to stop a cop of taking your car away or sending someone to jail.
Cops in Ecuador are kind and helpfull, but anyway, better get things straight than having a pain in your... (you understand)
聽 That must be true, I imagine.聽 I'm only staying here for 1 or 2 years so I don't plan on getting a cedula and I'm only 39.聽 So I imagine once a cop sees someone 60+ yrs old in Ecuador's retirement capital then all sorts of red flags must go off unless he wants to ignore them.
聽 So with a cedula I would probably get a local DL.聽 But for me on a 9 month visa ext.聽 They don't really care about a local DL even I'm here for 2 yrs.聽
Now, not really being a tourist hub, Cuenca cops would probably cause some stir if I have an accident....but I still believe that it would be irrelevant for me on visa extensions/re-entries....
I think that one can stay 90 days on a tourist visa (which can be extended for three more months).聽 After that you have to be out of the country for a year.聽 So if that is your case then no, probably not a DL issue.
In my experience cops at traffic stops treat the elderly with a lot more consideration then they do younger folks.聽 But I wouldn't want to test it at a traffic stop or accident.
I think that one can stay 90 days on a tourist visa (which can be extended for three more months).聽 After that you have to be out of the country for a year.聽 So if that is your case then no, probably not a DL issue."
聽 聽 Lots of folks who r visiting long term get a 6mth extension for $200.聽 So that's a 9 month total.聽 Then they take a weekend trip to Peru or Columbia and return fresh to start again.聽
Of course this is not the Official procedure but neither was it when I was in Thailand , China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, The Philippines etc..
It's called a visa run and that's the deal with the majority of the world including Ecuador.聽 Of course countries like the US and England are infinitely more restrictive...
I'm only 39 , not retiring, not gonna stay here indefinitely and as long as they know I'm not taking a job from an ecuadorian then it's all good.聽
Visa runs are even advertised openly in newspaper and online even though immigration can't and won't advertise it.
Being white obviously helps too.聽 If I was columbian than its a whole new ballgame,聽 聽
What r they gonna say,"no we don't want u to spend $4K / month here...?
I would always guarantee聽 that a police officer will never say , "I have to impound your vehicle because u need to get your cedula or you've been a tourist too long to drive here."聽
If the police in California didn't mind me driving there for 5 yrs on my Canadian DL in 1997 then it's not likely a Ecuadorian police officer will have an issue with it.
mackbutter, I've kept quiet through all of this (and other threads you've posted in), but I just HAVE to know... how do plan on staying in Ecuador for 1-2 years, without getting a residency visa?
There is no visa that allows for "in-and-out-and-in, reset the clock" privileges, other than a "real live" Residency Visa.
But since I'm not an Ecuardorian attorney, I will just sit on the side-lines and see how this all plays out :-) Please, keep us informed! Oh, by the way, quito0819 is very accurate in his visa description and how your plan may be a bit "sideways". I would only add that if you think you might get a pass for being a "white guy", jajajajajajaja.
Good luck in all your future endeavors. Please though, before all the heart break of finding out what Ecuadorian National Police are really like, just remember... we're not in Kansas anymore Toto.
symo
We got stop, Police request the car because we did not have a DL. I mean, ecuadorian DL. Not international, not american, ecuadorian.
He siad, if you are driving with out your passport, I have to put you in jail.
And we beg, and beg, and beg, and beg and beg..
It sounds like you're speaking from experience then , correct?
U must know someone being thrown in jail for driving with聽 a foreign DL perhaps?
Do you know of someone who was kicked out durrin a visa run?聽
IF u extend yur visa for 6 month = 9 months.聽 You must have seen companies here advertising this?聽 Afterwards, leave and re-enter after a nice vacation somewhere ( somewhere with a beach preferably) and u start again.
I was in Japan for 2 years(start with a 3 month visa), Taipei for 2 years( start with a 3 month visa), Thailand on a diving vacation for 1 year (" ")Philippines, Hong Kong, .....etc聽 and never once has there been an issue.聽 In fact most of these countries have many companies which聽 advertise their visa runs extensively.聽 聽 My dive instructor has been doing it for 14 years now in Thailand where they have companies driving 1000's of people daily to Burma to get their passports stamped en masse .聽
Similar goes for my other countries especially Japan.聽 I never had my residency visa in any of these countries.聽 I have known thousands of expats in these countries and with the exception of those with a work visa most just went on visa runs, sometimes for years n years.聽 聽But to be fair , I never knew any retired ex-pats retiring in these countries either...
To be honest Im surprised u never heard of this.聽 Not everyone wants a residency visa do they?
It seems like the discrepancy here is travel vs retirement?聽 Or do you think that Ecuador is different from the other 14 or so countries I've lived in?
It seems like if my purpose was to retire here and the govt objected to me skirting the immigration/cedula process than it seems like u may have a very good point.聽
And not to seem arrogant but I've been to Kansas ...and I drove with a foreign DL聽 聽
....Never heard of anyone named toto though...?聽 聽
I'm definitely not an authority on the subject and only have my experiences to reference.
As I said , my experience definitely does not mean it will be others' experience.
I always rely on my own research and hope others will too.
Best wishes!
But good luck.
Yes, I know personally two individuals that were denied entry due to previous Visa violations, but they had not traveled to Japan, Taipei, Hong Kong, or other non-Ecuadorian countries. Perhaps the results would have been different at the airport if they could have just explained how the rest of the world doesn't enforce their immigration laws at Immigration in Quito.
I'm also not sure how "retirement" enters into the picture. I'm not here on a [/b]9-I retirement visa myself, but rather a 9-II Investor Visa. However, just for the record, the 12-X gives you a total of 6 months (180 days) in-country and not 9 months as you incorrectly pointed out previously. But hey, don't take my word for it... this is from the Ecuador Embassy, Washington, DC...
VISA12 聳 X: Temporary Visitor
Admission subjects
Temporary visitors for the following purposes: tourism, sport, health, education, science or art
Requirements:
Passport with remaining validity of at least 6 months beyond the travel dates
Up to date color picture, passport size with white background
Updated police background check
Roundtrip plane ticket
The applicant must demonstrate financial solvency to remain in the country
Important.
Article 22 of the Aliens Act. - Officers, Foreign Service and the Department and the Immigration Department, will have broad powers to require verification of the statements set out in applications for visas and other immigration documents to ensure and investigate the occurrence of any of the causes of exclusion provided the Migration Act.
Visa Validity:
90 days maximum
Entries: Multiple
Tariff:
Visa application: $ 30
Visa: $ 30
Presence of the applicant is a must
Payment must be done in cash or money order
So, your T-3 gets you 90 days, and the 12-X gets you a 90 day extension. But wait... do check with them, since your previous experience will probably allow them to "be flexible" in administering the law for your benefit.
Have a great visit to Ecuador and may your time here give you many great memories of a lovely country and its people. Oh and we appreciate the $4 grand your going to be dropping every month :-)

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