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Shill88 wrote:

. Even President  Jokowi himself has confirmed that he was not truthful about the real situation and was under stating the true numbers. This is in order to prevent riots and panic.

Missed that - would you link to it please

Fred wrote:

Shill88 wrote:

. Even President  Jokowi himself has confirmed that he was not truthful about the real situation and was under stating the true numbers. This is in order to prevent riots and panic.

Missed that - would you link to it please

You must be on a different planet if you missed that, simple google search will point you in right direction

Fred wrote:

Here are the real percentages based on REPORTED cases, so that excludes unreported cases, and that's likely to be a lot considering many thought they had a bad cold



Posters might also notice the majority of deaths were over 70, AND had other serious illnesses, that suggesting the possibility covid 19 has actually killed a lot fewer than it's blamed for.

Exact same one i use, and indonesia still high on death rates/ %  to confirmed cases, regardless of age or undeying ilness, its the same all over the world,

Marcello Manganese wrote:

I dont think ts correct the assioma  "The more tests they do, the higher the number of infected people and the lower the mortality rate."
Just take a look at Italy, wich is the Country that have made more test in the world, have the higher number of positive cases and the higher mortality rate, almost 10%.

Why don't you think so? Most of cases were spread by people who did not know they have the virus. If these people knows they will self isolate even from their family members.

By the time Italy took action, it was already too late.

Shill88 wrote:

Actually, I sometimes cannot believe that there were people in some countries accusing others who blocked flights from China as being xenophobic or racist. Common sense and safety should always supersede identity politics and politic correctness in my opinion.

Nothing to do with that. Look at USA now.

There's no stopping it anymore. Only hope is to slow it down and also hope we find a vaccine or cure soon.

Gwmeath wrote:

British Expats are being urged by the British Embassy Jakarta to pass on the following
Full name
D.O.B
Location within Indonesia ( or as accurate as possible)
Contact number
Any health issues
This can be done easily on the above Facebook page / messenger etc this is regardless if wishing to leave or stay

I hope that's by private message.

Silly question, but has the FB page been verified as actually being what it claims to be? Grabbing that info is a criminal's wet dream.

tiganasfx wrote:

Marcello Manganese wrote:

I dont think ts correct the assioma  "The more tests they do, the higher the number of infected people and the lower the mortality rate."
Just take a look at Italy, wich is the Country that have made more test in the world, have the higher number of positive cases and the higher mortality rate, almost 10%.

Why don't you think so? Most of cases were spread by people who did not know they have the virus. If these people knows they will self isolate even from their family members.

By the time Italy took action, it was already too late.

Of course a lot of people Is asympthomaic and this is one of reasons because the virus spread so fast, but how can governments koow them if they dont show any sympthom?
Italy took action in the best way possibile, adaptimg the restrictions ti the growing of cases, and many countries now are following Italy on that, so please dont said fake news.

Shill88 wrote:

Italy did not handle it well. Plus as they keep telling us, Italy has a higher number of very elderly people. Japan has the most elderly people, more than any other country but they probably handled it better in the early stages.

I seem to remember reading that the mayor of one town in Italy telling everyone to go and hug a Chinese person. A weird thing to say and clearly he wouldn't be saying that now. And remember that there were direct flights between Wuhan and Italy before.

Actually, I sometimes cannot believe that there were people in some countries accusing others who blocked flights from China as being xenophobic or racist. Common sense and safety should always supersede identity politics and politic correctness in my opinion.

Every country have idiot politicians, the difference is that in Italy he was one not from the government, in USA for example, the president himself claim until few days ago that citizens dont have to be worry, and now USA Is the country with more infected in the world, not mentioning others prime ministers of Countries as France, Spain, etc

Gwmeath wrote:

For British Expats with Indonesian wife/ husband, children etc who may have been informed about none eu citizens travelling to the UK under current restrictions (myself one of them)
This is also documented on the British Embassy jakarta social media pages that are authentic

link wrote:

the United Kingdom – despite being one of the hardest-hit countries in Europe – has offered visa waivers for Indonesian relatives of British citizens.

Even if someone was inclined to move back, comparing conditions in the two countries at the moment means it would probably be extremely foolish to do so.

Fred wrote:

Gwmeath wrote:

For British Expats with Indonesian wife/ husband, children etc who may have been informed about none eu citizens travelling to the UK under current restrictions (myself one of them)
This is also documented on the British Embassy jakarta social media pages that are authentic

link wrote:

the United Kingdom – despite being one of the hardest-hit countries in Europe – has offered visa waivers for Indonesian relatives of British citizens.

Even if someone was inclined to move back, comparing conditions in the two countries at the moment means it would probably be extremely foolish to do so.

Certainly an option not to turn a nose up to and certainly one im pleased with, its only a case of flights for me and the family
Its a case of when here and not if it explodes unfortunately,