大咖福利影院

Dalam buku servis tertulis penggatian oli tiap 4.000 km

Sorry it's in Indonesian, but it says every 4,000.

colinoscapee wrote:

I change both my bikes around 2500 klm.

Small engines are better looked after, so I would agree it's probably better to change more often than the manual suggests.
I stick to 2,00 because it makes the maths easy for my poor memory. Every even 1,000 gets an oil change.
I ignore the 500 service I had to make it easier again, so it got its first 2 changes within 2,000 km.

The grease monkeys in the Honda workshop were always amused at the low use, but not half as much as the Daihatsu dudes when they see my lack of KM when I go for a service.
The Luxio must cost as much in servicing as it does in fuel.

Hypothalamus wrote:

find your dipstick and if it's black it's time to bring it in. Simple as that. It's not like your bike is gonna explode if you don't change the oil within the 'recommended' period. I hope there is a dipstick some where on the bike.

If it is black on a gasoline engine, you probably waited too long.聽 A diesel dipstick will show black oil after only about 100 machine hours so the color in that case is meaningless, but a gasoline auto won't show black oil on the stick until well after recommended intervals of 3000 or even 5000 miles.

Remember that an air cooled engine runs a lot hotter than a water cooled engine and so breaks oil down faster.聽 Many mechanics recommended an oil change interval of 1500 miles on the old air cooled VW "bugs" while the closest interval you will see on a water cooled car is 3000 miles.聽 Based on that knowledge, I would think that an older air cooled motorbike maybe should have a shorter interval than one of the newer water cooled models.

I always insisted that we bring our Airblade (water cooled) to Honda right on the recommended interval of 3000 km which dumbfounded my wife.聽 Most Vietnamese seem to subscribe to the ride it 'till it breaks philosophy.聽 When we left, I sold it to my brother in law for above market value with no embarrassment because he and I both knew that it was in proper shape.聽 If you buy a used bike for 10 million VND and plan to leave in 6 months then forget about it, but if you have invested in a new or late model bike, why not take care of it.

Bazza139 wrote:

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聽 Air cooled engines need more regular servicing and (again) especially for those in stop-start and gridlock commuting.聽 聽Common sense always applies.聽 聽Regular servicing = reliability.

Pre-warm the engine to get the oil circulating.

Many modern bikes circulate the oil before the engine will start but your advice is still good.
A little 'easy' time for the engine is always a good idea.

Thaiger wrote:

My gf does it every 6 months, which seems about right.

That would depend if she does 1,000, 2,000, or 10,000 km in six months.
Manuals for low capacity bikes usually suggest 4,000 (give or take), or at least the Honda and Yamaha bikes I've had do.
Time doesn't matter, only the conditions your engine is exposed to.

MarkinNam wrote:

It may have something to do with diluting petrol with other more abrasive fuels eg Friesland or kerosene, common on the street corner in 1 lite bottles

A tad off topic but true.
Expanding to general engine care, it's recommended to use only known quality fuel as the 'street corner' stuff in Asian countries (and probably a lot of other places) has been known to be diluted with other chemicals.
Water and veg oil are unlikely as both would stop your engine pretty quickly, even if you didn't notice the separation of unlike liquids as it was put into your tank.

panda7 wrote:

somewhere down the line I'm sure the scrupulous mechanics have somehow convinced the foreigners that their scooters require an oil change every 500km ! you see some adds even saying they changed the oil every 300km all the way to Hanoi ! normally the oil change on a scoot is every 2000km I think...so any scooter purchased in HCMC with a new oil change is enough to make it to Hanoi with plenty of detours along the way. Please correct me if I am wrong

On reflection, I should point out that vehicle service/repair is full of rip-off artists. This is true in America as well as Viet Nam and I suspect world wide. Be cautious and careful. You have been warned.

panda7 wrote:

somewhere down the line I'm sure the scrupulous mechanics have somehow convinced the foreigners that their scooters require an oil change every 500km ! you see some adds even saying they changed the oil every 300km all the way to Hanoi ! normally the oil change on a scoot is every 2000km I think...so any scooter purchased in HCMC with a new oil change is enough to make it to Hanoi with plenty of detours along the way. Please correct me if I am wrong

I ride a 2011 SYM Atilla which has an oil change indicator that automatically shows up red at 1000km. It takes me a month or more to reach that point and I always change the oil then at the local SYM service shop. Costs me 85,000d

Wald0 wrote:

Im pretty sure my brother in-law has not change any oil in his scooter this year.... 馃槵

Because that is the typical Vietnamese ride it until it's broke philosophy.聽 What is cheaper, a few oil changes or a seized up engine?聽 It seems odd that Vietnamese take a long view on some things like hoarding gold while foolishly refusing to do things like basic maintenance on expensive items like motorbikes.

THIGV wrote:

Wald0 wrote:

Im pretty sure my brother in-law has not change any oil in his scooter this year.... 馃槵

Because that is the typical Vietnamese ride it until it's broke philosophy.聽 What is cheaper, a few oil changes or a seized up engine?聽 It seems odd that Vietnamese take a long view on some things like hoarding gold while foolishly refusing to do things like basic maintenance on expensive items like motorbikes.

Don't forget housing. If anything maintaining houses is even worse than motorcycles.

Note, I am retired military and we do try to maintain our equipment. As a Military Advisor to the ARVN Military, one of our more difficult tasks was training personal to maintain their equipment.

Also note, today's Vietnamese Military does seem to do better.

Wald0 wrote:

Yes, some people here like to change oil too often. I usually change my oil around 4000km
Then again it will cost me around 700k-1.2tr plus oilfilter. Im pretty sure my brother in-law has not change any oil in his scooter this year.... 馃槵

Is he short of a dong or just isn't bothered?