New I.D. card rules page 8 - Malta forum

New I.D. card rules

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13 years ago

toonarmy9752 wrote:
Q..... does anyone know if the application signs away your rights for them to hold biometric data on non maltese nationals....such as medical financials etc etc etc.

there is a section about data protection act on the application forms

Toon Cyprus Expert

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13 years ago

#282

my point being do you sign to agree to having any biometric data held on the card?

georgeingozo ViP

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13 years ago

#283

do they take biometric data for non-Maltese ? I thought only photo and signature

Toon Cyprus Expert

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13 years ago

#284

I am not sure to be honest but wasnt that the whole idea and the reason they got the 16m for introducing a biometric card/permit rather than an id card to EU foreigners.

georgeingozo ViP

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13 years ago

#285

I think I read that the biometric is for Maltese only, and that its illegal for the docs for foreigners to include more than basic info. We are being issued the same physical card, but with much less info on it (I think)

Toon Cyprus Expert

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13 years ago

#286

lets hope so.

tearnet ViP

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13 years ago

#287

georgeingozo wrote:
I think I read that the biometric is for Maltese only, and that its illegal for the docs for foreigners to include more than basic info. We are being issued the same physical card, but with much less info on it (I think)

Illegal, I doubt but may be against EU rules!
For biometric they would need to either take fingerprints or do a retinal scan. However on the ID1 form you do have to tick at the bottom of the form either that you "wish to proceed applying for an electronic identity document" or聽 "do not wish to proceed with applying for an electronic identity document"

Not sure what happens if you tick not to proceed, perhaps you get the residency card without a barcode or tracking number?

Terry

tearnet ViP

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13 years ago

#288

This copied from the 2012 act regarding the new residency card.

a photograph of the person in respect of whom it is issued which, in the opinion of the authorised officer,truly resembles such person at the time the residence document is issued. It shall moreover contain the signature of the holder or a reproduction of a recent signature of the holder, and also the following聽 particulars concerning such person:(a)name and surname;(b)the address of the principal place o fresidence;(c)nationality;(d)place and date of birth,and may include such other particulars or information as the authorised officer may deem appropriate.(3)A residence document shall be made of such material and in such manner as in the opinion ofthe authorised officer, or as established by law, provide adequate security against forgery, tampering or alteration thereof, and it shall, in any case, include a聽 limited area where machine readable coded information may be inserted to enable the electronic identification of the holder.Cap. 217.Cap. 420.(4)The use of any information captured duringthe residence document issuance process may only be used for the purposes of the Immigration Act, the Refugees Act and any related subsidiary legislation.

georgeingozo ViP

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13 years ago

#289

"may include such other particulars or information as the authorised officer may deem appropriate" well, thats nice and clear :-)

Toon Cyprus Expert

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13 years ago

#290

a tad too vague for me - and a open to interpretation - could cause problems if theyre all not singing from the same hymn book

georgeingozo ViP

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13 years ago

#291

toonarmy9752 wrote:
could cause problems if theyre all not singing from the same hymn book

one thing with Malta - they all sing from the same hymn book :-)

georgeingozo ViP

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13 years ago

#292

I want favourite colour on mine, as well as top 5 beers, just in case of emergency

Toon Cyprus Expert

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13 years ago

#293

i want a "fair deal" sticker in mine.....

georgeingozo ViP

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13 years ago

#294

toonarmy9752 wrote:
i want a "fair deal" sticker in mine.....

my demand is more likely to be met than yours

Toon Cyprus Expert

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13 years ago

#295

always up for a challenge

Toon Cyprus Expert

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13 years ago

#296

I wonder if they will write to you to let you know thats its ready for collection from melita street - whats the betting they wont and you will be forced like everyone else to make call after call to find out.

scubaboy Serial expat

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13 years ago

#297

So far....

1st Email sent: Monday 28th
2nd email sent: Wednesday 30th

Response received: Wednesday 30th 7:30pm

Residence Permits for A holders run out March 30th聽 -聽 Appointment April 9th 10:15am <<< WTF !!!

Toon Cyprus Expert

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13 years ago

#298

this is Malta - organised chaos

georgeingozo ViP

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13 years ago

#299

ID cards expire end March, but residence docs expire end June ne

scubaboy Serial expat

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13 years ago

#300

Thanks George.

trencall22 New member

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13 years ago

#301

As a residential card is required in order to obtain a new i/d res card,how do I require one when the office only seems interested in interviewing persons with all the required documentation.
Peter

georgeingozo ViP

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13 years ago

#302

trencall22 wrote:
As a residential card is required in order to obtain a new i/d res card,

it isn't

ricky ViP

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13 years ago

#303

Hi Peter,

I'm not quite sure what your question is.

To require a ' residential card ' you have to apply by appointment for one with all the documentation.

Cheers
Ricky

trencall22 New member

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13 years ago

#304

the point I am trying to make is that at the moment, I do now have a residence card. Does this mean I require 2 appointments, ie 1 for res permit and 1 for new i/d res card. Sorry for being a bit slow on this matter
peter

georgeingozo ViP

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13 years ago

#305

1 appointment only. The permit and id/res card are the same thing

ricky ViP

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13 years ago

#306

Hi Peter,

as George says it is all in one now.

When you apply for the new combined card you have to pass in your old ID card and your residency document and you will receive a receipt which doubles as the new residence card/ID card until they issue the new card.

Cheers
Ricky

popro Active member

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13 years ago

#307

On a slightly different note, does anyone have an idea what the card could be, I got hand delivered by the police? I received it today. I don't think it has anything to do with my residence application, but you never know. The card is "orangy" and reads on top "BIEX TIVVOTA". It has my picture on it and "kunsil lokali 2013". It has been supplied by Kunsil: Tas-Sliema. The card is plasticized.

My wife took delivery of the cards before I could question the police-man about the purpose of the card. As we are over 60, could this be the famous "Kartanzjan"? I would have thought though that this word would be on the card.

tearnet ViP

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13 years ago

#308

Its your voting card.

Terry

popro Active member

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13 years ago

#309

tearnet wrote:
Its your voting card.

Terry

Thanks for that. No intention to vote in anything, but it is a nice card for my collection.

ricky ViP

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13 years ago

#310

For EU and local elections.

If you are over 60 and havn't received your KarteAnzjan you should get in contact with your local council.

Normally they are sent out about 1 month before you reach 60.

Cheers
Ricky

Entity Contributor

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13 years ago

#311

Let me see: Getting the new ID card which is same as residency card takes around 3 month.
And it's required to open an bank account, and to be registered with arms?

Is there any fast-lane for newcomers EU residents or should I wait so long?
(well, no salary, while I dont have bank account...)
I know, I'm so naive

ricky ViP

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13 years ago

#312

Hi Entity,

the HSBC bank told me that they now accept passports and a rental contract as proof of residency!

Maybe worth a try if it is urgent. Let us know if they value what they told me the other day.

Cheers
Ricky

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Entity Contributor

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13 years ago

#313

Great News!

I will try it if I have my rental contract (which is hopefully in 2 hours).

Well, I can't wait 3 months for my first salary

Andras

tearnet ViP

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13 years ago

#314

Entity wrote:
Let me see: Getting the new ID card which is same as residency card takes around 3 month.
And it's required to open an bank account, and to be registered with arms?

Is there any fast-lane for newcomers EU residents or should I wait so long?
(well, no salary, while I dont have bank account...)
I know, I'm so naive

Once you apply for the residency card you are issued with a temp card that is valid untill the new card is issued, you can use this for the bank and ARMS if required.

Terry

Entity Contributor

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13 years ago

#315

tearnet wrote:
Once you apply for the residency card you are issued with a temp card that is valid untill the new card is issued, you can use this for the bank and ARMS if required.

Terry

Its ok, but the appointment dates issued now are in april...

Toon Cyprus Expert

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13 years ago

#316

ricky wrote:
Hi Entity,

the HSBC bank told me that they now accept passports and a rental contract as proof of residency!

Maybe worth a try if it is urgent. Let us know if they value what they told me the other day.

Cheers
Ricky

Thats exactly what we did when we first came here

popro Active member

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13 years ago

#317

Has anyone seen any sign of life AFTER handing in their documents? Some token that they have even been looked at? Or is 3 weeks too short in Malta to expect any movement?

ricky ViP

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13 years ago

#318

Hi popro,

so you were one of the fast ones too -)))

No, we just received the receipt that counts as ID document.Knowing Malta I'm not expecting any further document within the next months especially as the old ID cards are still valid until the end of March and after that the old residence documents are valid until the end of June.

If they accept your documents at application I don't see why anybody behind the scene will object !

Cheers
Ricky

popro Active member

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13 years ago

#319

On a different note, does any one know here from what date onwards one becomes a resident for TAX purposes? From application date? Arrival date in Malta or the date one receives the residence certificate?