Loneliness when you're abroad
Thanks all
I am a Venezuelan expatriate that has lived in Spain, England and France, so I share many of the feelings and opinions posted in this forum.
I have moved at least 30 times in 13 years, mainly between cities and by going forwards and backwards from one place to another. It may have been more like a backpacking situation but with a suitcase and working to pay the bills!
I think home is where we are.
By the way, I am also a PhD student doing a research on global nomads. I am looking for professionals that have changed locations by their own accord, individuals that have lived and work in at least three different countries... or that at least have moved often!
I am open to suggestions in regards of how to find people that may be interested in participating.
My email address is gabbygn@hotmail.co.uk
Regards,
Gabriela

DavaoBruce wrote:I am a 55 year old American Expat in the Philippines. At times I miss good friends to get together with for a day or evening out. There are 2 expat groups here that have meetings and some social events. I do not know if it the age, that most are men, or that I do not cheat on my wife, even though there is great oppertunity here with all the younger women, but at times I feel lonely not being invited out and living in a house with my wife and 3 nieces where the only time english is spoken is when they talk to me.
Sorry to hear that Bruce i am a Filipino working in Saudi Arabia and to tell you that is one of our traits i guess. Good thing though i was able to work overseas where English is the medium of communication. Why dont you tell them to speak English at home in that case everybody can understand. I speak english at home infront of my nieces, nephews and brother because i have an aunt who live in america for 45 years and she can no longer speak our language fluently and every one speak her language instead so as not to isolate her. If i am in your neighborhood i am sure we can be good buddies.
What you can do first is thinking of them, looking at pictures, listening to some music that reminds you them, and of course talking with them if you can. Don't forget, skype is your best friend

But the best thing to do is to try to meet other people from your 'new country' and learn from them what is typical in this country. Sports, concerts, museums... discovering a new culture is always interesting and you won't miss your country.
I agree it is difficult to meet people and even more difficult to make friends. But there must some associations you could join, be benevolent...
I'm in Canada for my studies and I rent a room to a canadian couple and that's the best thing I could do. I celebrated thanksgiving with them and it was really nice. I think it's good to live with people from your 'new' country because you learn much more from them and they can explain to you things that they do, and can give you practical advice.
Hope this gives some ideas...
Your post has been merged with this discussion on Expatriate forum.

i am 19 and i am currently a student studying in a uni in melbourne. i am a singaporean and i feel so lonely and bored here always. i feel like the australian locals are unfriendly and they don't really wanna talk to you when they know ur an international student. worse still, im taking a bachelor of arts and almost everyone in the arts faculty are locals and i dont really get a chance to meet international people.
i feel really sad because i am 19 and i should be living the life, goig to parties ad stuff and hanging out with friends. but sadly, i am not, i dont have any friends at all to hang out with and although i do go out myself to do shopping and stuff, sometimes i think you just need some company.
i do have a job tho but its making me tired and every night i come back i feel lonely and i feel like i have no life and at times like this, i really wonder if i will ever make any friends in melbourne as i have been here for 10 months and dont really have many friends.

iam not in istanbul...i missed it Nienna
so enjoy your time people, whish you the best all of you..
cheers,

I detest getting lonely, and I know I will go through it, but there is so much to do in GDL, so hopefully I will have the foresight to just go out and explore and smile and speak Spanish (yes, I've been studying for over a year, so I speak it (not fluent yet).聽 Also speak French.)
Good luck to you all!聽 And hang in there!聽 Reach out if you have the blues, to anyone who will smile back at you, and be there for other people.聽 It's the best way to get out of a rut, I find.
Bless you all!
Brenda from Wisconsin
Julien wrote:Do you often feel lonely when you're abroad?
I personaly suffered on week ends while I was in the UK. Even if I had several friends, I often missed my family and friends (from home). So I walked, visited museum, went to concerts, worked more... What about you?
What are you doing when you feel lonely?
WHEN I FEEL LONELY I JUST HAVE A BOOK AND READ,,I NEVER GET BORED OF READING AND READING MORE,,THEN I MAKE SOME SPORTS LIKE RUNNING,,WALKING,,THAT IS ALL

Could you please avoid using your caps lock on the forum. Thank you very much.
(Thank you for your contributions on this discussion)

Best regards,
Christine
thanks,
yogesh
The easiest thing I can do is just聽 reading some jokes or watching funny videos untill I cry laughing...who cares anyway, I'm all alone in my room so I don't need to worry bothering anyone...LOL!

And if it's just too much...I get a roll of tissue paper and cry hard hahahaha!...that assures me that I can get a good sleep after LOL!

BUT ! that was some years ago, and time and people can change things ! I'm glad I lived there when I did and have those beautiful memories to look back on !
I now live in a small City called "Belleville " The Friendly City in Ontario Canada ! I love it , when you ask for directions,people will not only give them to you but will actualy walk there with you to make sure you get there safely !!!!
It reminds me so much of my homeland Ireland . BUT, like every City on this planet you have to let it know you are there,you go to it's heartbeat, Library, Volunteer Groups, get the local newsletter and see what events are taking place and simply go there !
thnkfst wrote:I found in Switzerland, I was always busy and never had trouble meeting people.聽 I met a few people from Yahoo groups and then from there it just sky rocketed.
In Canada, I find it much harder.聽 I find too many people here are so flakey and always go back on their word for meeting up.聽 I'd rather have one reliable friend than many flakey ones.聽 I'm not sure if this is just a Vancouver issue but people certainly have a fear of commitment here.
I've always enjoyed going out and exploring on my own.聽 Now that I'm really into photography, I never run out of things to keep me busy.
I swear i was made to eat in one night more than I would eat in a year ! But these wonderful people would not take NO for an answer.聽 However , before we started to eat, Reg, ( man of the house )said Grace and thanked us for being his guests and declared that English be spoken while we were there ! It was and is common curtesy ! Of course when in conversation some people did speak their own language, and as soon as I came into their company they switched to English, (perhaps you can ask your wife or TELL her this is the way you would prefer it be done ).
I had to ask them to continue speaking their language , I don't understand it but I love hearing it and they were so kind to appoint an interpreter for me while they carried on speaking. I laughed when they laughed , felt and showed surprise when they did.聽 I felt no language barrier at all. I would love to be capable of speaking more than one language, everyone should !
I have insisted that my children learn French, as in Canada we are a bilingual Country and as I am thinking of moving to Ecuador I am going to learn Spanish !
I feel to be able to speak more than one language is an asset not a liability !
The "BABY " of this huge family is called " Vanessa Q " a little Lady of 18years old, beauty beyond compare, and a聽 singing voice that can make you cry and make you feel so happy
You can find her Bruce on " U Tube" under Vanessa Q,, but she sounds so much better in person !
Some recording magnets from N.Y. are anxious to sign her up, but her Mom is holding back with good Filipino sensibility !!!!
I hope this letter or manuscript , LOL, I do tend to ramble , helps you !聽 Good luck !
jessbuds wrote:DavaoBruce wrote:I am a 55 year old American Expat in the Philippines. At times I miss good friends to get together with for a day or evening out. There are 2 expat groups here that have meetings and some social events. I do not know if it the age, that most are men, or that I do not cheat on my wife, even though there is great oppertunity here with all the younger women, but at times I feel lonely not being invited out and living in a house with my wife and 3 nieces where the only time english is spoken is when they talk to me.
Sorry to hear that Bruce i am a Filipino working in Saudi Arabia and to tell you that is one of our traits i guess. Good thing though i was able to work overseas where English is the medium of communication. Why dont you tell them to speak English at home in that case everybody can understand. I speak english at home infront of my nieces, nephews and brother because i have an aunt who live in america for 45 years and she can no longer speak our language fluently and every one speak her language instead so as not to isolate her. If i am in your neighborhood i am sure we can be good buddies.
Ironic as it may sound , for once I want to truly feel what Christmas is all about ???
No presents, no commercial input, I have had all the shallow things that go with Christmas for years upon years. What you do after Christmas is more important !
lazyBarrientos wrote:The loneliness is overwhelming especially now that Christmas is coming.
We become better friends because we don't cling. We are secure enough to spend time with a friend because we want to, not because we need to.
I like chatting with people and exploring different cultures, languages and mindsets, that's the reason why I decided to live abroad a decade ago. At the same time I also enjoy being alone and if I don't have some free time on my own I begin to be quiet and absent(minded). So far, I managed to balance both aspects quite well and I seldom suffered from loneliness. However, things change now that I am over 30. I am very busy with my work and I enjoy going back home and doing some sports/exercise, reading and writing. Feeling of loneliness occurs when I visit my family and then I leave them. My life seems to be empty and meaningless until the routine resumes and I am back on my track. Sometimes I feel that the most painful is not loneliness when you know there are people who care for you, be they somewhere else or on your side. The most painful is being different from what you are supposed/expected to be in the society according to your age. Having a different lifestyle. The difference can make you feel lonely in your own homecountry. It depends whether your lifestyle results from your choice or not. Living abroad might just amplify any feelings/issues/differences. I made the decision to live abroad and I take it as a package with good and bad sides.
Wondergirl wrote:We're lucky that we live in University housing for married students where we are so all our neighbours are about the same age and at the same point in life; they all want friends. When we were in Seattle though it was a very different story. Probably the loneliest 9 months of my life.
this is the same story allover again聽 i think the best solution is to keep busy
I don't know if someone reading these lines will be able to help me and I am really lost and I could do with some help.
I have been in the UK for more than 3 years now.. I love it here and if asked this time last year I would have had no plan to leave.
Now reality strikes as for the past few months I have been feeling more lonely than I have ever been. I am, virtually, never bored. I have no problems to occupy myself, I have friends if I don't want to do things on my own... but for the past few months,聽 I have been feeling this deep hole in my heart that is simply getting bigger and bigger. No matter what I do, and no matter where I am, I always feel like something is missing, to the point it gets painful.
The friends I have here are great but they are not my friends or my family. I was so sad that a few weeks back I asked my boss to relocate back in France (I love my job and don't want to change), and they agreed. But now I feel this deep and painful sadness thinking I will leave this country I cherish so much. I know that here is where I want to be, but the idea of leaving depresses me, and the idea of staying is also unbearable. I have been unhappy for months now and I know I need to react and do something... the only thing is, I don't know what. If I leave it will be with the idea to come back in a couple of years.. but I don't know what a good solution it could be?
If anyone here has a piece of advice or experience to share, I would be immensely grateful as I am completely lost.
Thank you very very much.
its a bit peculiar that you find yourself in this situation however, i dont think you found yet good friends there.no wonder in england is very hard to find good friends, as life rythem is very fast. i have been living in dubai for the last couple of years.at first i felt that but now i have completely adjusted myself. write to me and hopefully we could figure out a soulution.adam
I try to watch movies or read books. Sites like this really help cause you can see that you really aren't alone in what you're experiencing. Joining a gym, or any form of exercise helps. Other than that just try to block out any lonely feelings.
I think I've just accepted that I'm alone and just move on.
honestipays wrote:I just study to kill time.
Hi honestipays,
I am Chinese living abroad :-) What would you recommend to study to kill time? What do you study, if I may ask?
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