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Translation help - Relationship

1POSTS

10 years ago

Hi All,

My name is John, this is the first time I have posted on this forum but really didn't know where else to turn to for advice. I don't know if this is the right place and am hoping someone can help me.

I have a best friend (westerner) in Saigon who is married to a Vietnamese woman, they had been dating for 3 years and recently married a few months ago. Everything seemed to be wonderful and my friend is completely in love with her, it seemed to me that his wife was head over heals in love with him also until recently. I was walking in the city the other day when my best friends wife and an unknown vietnamese man walked down the steps of a hotel, I wouldn't have thought much of this except they were holding hands and also exchanged what I can only describe as a very personal and passitionate kiss.. I was completely shocked to see this.

I want to give my best friends wife the chance to come clean with her husband as it's the least he deserves from her.聽

What I want to do is send her an sms asking her to be honest and tell him the truth, I have little hope that she will and as a backup was able to snap a photo on my cellphone of the two holding hands and kissing to show my best friend if his wife does not come clean, the photos are very good quality and there is no chance the wife could be mistaken for another woman.

Would a Vietnamese member of the forum be able to please translate the message below so I may send it to her.

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Hi v,

I hope this message does not offend you and mean no disrespect to you regarding this matter. I recently saw you with a man who was not your husband, you were holding hands and kissing. I am very shocked to have seen this and know that your husband will be deeply hurt when he knows, the reason I have contacted you is to give you the chance to tell your husband the truth, end the other affair and fix your marriage. I know you love your husband and he loves you dearly. Please explain to your husband otherwise I feel it is my duty to tell him what I saw and show him the photos I have taken of you and the other man. I do not want to do this and am hoping you value your marriage enough to be the honest person.

Thank you

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Nhu Ara Member

1POSTS

10 years ago

if she got married to an american guy,then you dont need to have someone translate the letter as she could understand english

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jpbsimpson Active member

94POSTS

10 years ago

Sorry to say that I have not responded to do the translation but to help you avoid a possible problem resulting in you losing your friend and his wife due to a misunderstanding.

The problem with your message is that it shows that you have decided that this meeting could NOT be innocent. You may be surprised to learn that this Vietnamese man is a relative etc.

I suggest that you change your messaage as follows.

Please understand that this is intended as a constructive crticism only.

Hi v,

I hope this message does not offend you and mean no disrespect to you regarding this matter. I recently saw you with a man who was not your husband, you were holding hands and kissing. Forgive me if I am making a wrong assumption about this matter but I was very shocked to have seen this. If this is not an innocent meeting i feel that I have to let your husband know about it.聽 I know that your husband will be deeply hurt when I inform him.聽 The reason I have contacted you is to give you the chance to tell your husband the truth, and if it is not innocent to end the other affair and fix your marriage. I know you love your husband and he loves you dearly. Please explain to your husband otherwise I feel it is my duty to tell him what I saw and show him the photos I have taken of you and the other man. I do not want to do this and am hoping you value your marriage enough to be the honest person.

Thank you

cossmo Serial expat

247POSTS

10 years ago

John, it's a shame you are caught in the middle. it's probably easier for you to confront your buddy than allow a moral conscience to take their due course. state the facts of what you've had seen and make no further assumptions. whether it is by you or the girl, your buddy is gonna get hurt. if you give the girl an opportunity, it will allow her to make strategic plans or maybe turn the situation against you. just my two cents.

lilith235 Active member

33POSTS

10 years ago

Don't go further if you don't sure what you saw. If maybe broken their family by accident. I think you can go and talk to her personally and see what her respond. But I have to warn you, be careful on what you are doing.

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Guestposter822 Guest

0POSTS

10 years ago

sending the message to the wife is a mistake and only gives her an advantage. you would be doing a disservice to your buddy. unless of course you are actually the husband ? you need to give the photos to your buddy and let him decide his course of action...the best being retreat and exit quietly.

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Linh NG Active member

43POSTS

10 years ago

If I were u, I would give those photos to my buddy and let him find out the truth though truth may hurt.

Contem talk Serial expat

509POSTS

10 years ago

This is the reality聽 as what you saw.聽 But unfortunately聽 Most of Foreigners聽 don't have a chance to聽 seem,聽 Most of Vietnamese聽 who are married Foreigners聽 look likes it's kind of gambling for them, ( Not All) one hands聽聽they using forging husband Money聽 and other hand they play with Vietnamese man.

Phuong Lien Do Member

10POSTS

10 years ago

#10

To dear John !
The translation is :
Ch脿o V
Hy v峄峮g r岷眓g tin nh岷痭 n脿y kh么ng x煤c ph岷 hay c贸媒 thi岷縰 t么n tr峄峮g b岷 . G岷 膽芒y , t么i th岷 b岷 tay trong tay , 么m h么n m峄檛 ng瓢峄漣膽脿n 么ng kh么ng ph岷 l脿 ch峄搉g c峄 b岷 . T么i 膽茫 r岷 s峄慶 v脿 bi岷縯 r岷眓g 膽i峄乽膽贸 s岷� r岷 l脿m t峄昻 th瓢啤ng ch峄搉g b岷 khi anh 岷 bi岷縯膽瓢峄 . L媒 do t么i li锚n l岷 v峄沬 b岷 l脿 v矛 t么i mu么n cho b岷 m峄檛 c啤 h峄檌 n贸i s峄� th岷璽 cho ch峄搉g c峄 b岷 , ch岷 d峄﹖ vi峄嘽 ngo岷 t矛nh v脿 vun 膽岷痯 cho h么n nh芒n c峄 b岷 . T么i bi岷縯 l脿 b岷 y锚u ch峄搉g b岷 v脿 anh 岷 c农ng y锚u b岷 r岷 nhi峄乽 .
H茫y gi岷 th铆ch cho ch峄搉g b岷 , b岷眓g kh么ng , t么i c岷 th岷 c贸 tr谩ch nhi峄噈 ph岷 n贸i cho anh 岷 bi岷縯 , v脿 cho anh 岷 xem nh峄痭g h矛nh 岷h m脿 t么i 膽茫 ch峄 膽瓢峄 : b岷 v脿 ng瓢峄漣膽脿n 么ng kh谩c .
T么i kh么ng mu峄憂 ph岷 l脿m 膽i峄乽 n脿y , v脿 mong r岷眓g gi谩 tr峄� h么n nh芒n c峄 b岷 膽峄� 膽峄� b岷 trung th峄眂 .
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Dear John ! Think that is an accident ! Hope your friends can find out the good way to solve it !
Have a nice day !

Hong Vinh Tran Member

13POSTS

10 years ago

#11

I wonder why they have fallen in love w each other for more 3years but she can not understand what you mean.....btw dont go so far,maybe many reasons in their relationship you have no idea...

brackansvincent Member

3POSTS

10 years ago

#12

I am a Vietnamese man. In my 12 years that I stay in Saigon, I would say that it is really really rare to see a Vietnamese man and a Vietnamese woman kissing in the street. If they want to do something then that is where a short-stay in a small hotel will do, that industry is growing quickly though. I would bet you 10 to 1, you and I will scout thru Saigon for 3 days to each and every hotel and you will not find any man or woman kissing. It's a good bet. After all, it's an Eastern country. It's possible, but very improbable.

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hongnguyen79 New member

6POSTS

10 years ago

#13

Hi there
I'm Hong nguyen
I live in hcmc
I just surf your sms and I think you are good friend
I can help you somethings but we need talk more to know and clearly the truth

Cheers

cossmo Serial expat

247POSTS

10 years ago

#14

You do see them kiss. Mainly in dark parks and river.

brackansvincent Member

3POSTS

10 years ago

#15

That I would agree. I do that, too. But is it unusual for a married woman to kiss another man in broad day light in front of a hotel? I mean like I said before, it's highly improbable. I wonder if the story is true. I ponder the writer's motive.

cossmo Serial expat

247POSTS

10 years ago

#16

Ah yes you're right, I missed your context. It is rare for couples to kiss in broad day light.

brackansvincent Member

3POSTS

10 years ago

#17

So imagine you were the writer, John, I believe. You have a good friend, married. One day you just trolling out the street and saw the scene. Two people kissing, I perceived. Not a very uncommon thing for a Westerner so there was no reason for me to focus. I would look away to give them their privacy. Oh no no, I was in Vietnam. That scene is not common. I must take a look. How far from them were I? Maybe 12 feet? maybe 20 feet. They were kissing. Ok. That woman looked strangely familiar. Oh, it was the woman that my friend got married to only a few months ago (maybe 4 to 6 months I guess). The first reaction that any sensible man would do in that situation would be to draw their big, fat Iphone out and take a good picture? That I am not sure. But I did it anyway. How long was the kiss, must be pretty long so I could take a good picture. How passinate was the kiss, must be pretty passinate. People would use both hands to hold the girl's head and neck when kissing so as to keep her long hair in place. I guess her hair was long, wasn't it? It must be very confusing to recognize a person from a kissing scene because we could only see a part of the whole head. It would be easier to recognize a person when they are taking an profile picture. Woman in Vietnam, one thing you must have noticed, are very protected of their precious skin. Therefore they would wear all kind of protection from face mask to sun glasses, even they wear a kind of long dress to cover their legs when they drive on a scooter because the sun is too hot. So when you see a woman on the street, you could see their face mask and sun glasses only. Good luck identifying them.

gobot ViP

1430POSTS

10 years ago

#18

This guy's story doesn't smell right. A hare-brained excuse to get someone to translate a blackmail note? Risking getting beat up by some Viet dude (and girlfriend) instead of just telling his "best friend"? Who would concoct some weird plan like this? Oh yeah, a fiction writer. And, where is johnsimmons670 now? 16 responses to his very first post, 2 weeks later, and no followup? I calling this fake, you've all been tricked.

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Trang D瓢啤ng Active member

46POSTS

10 years ago

#19

Fiction writer

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Julien Founder

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10 years ago

#20

gobot wrote:
where is johnsimmons670 now? 16 responses to his very first post, 2 weeks later, and no followup?

You are completely right. I've checked and johnsimmons670 never connected again...

Better closing this thread.

thanks everyone for your participation,

Julien